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Damascus. Could it be a shooter? #185830 04/14/10 03:37 PM
Joined: Jan 2002 Posts: 3,660 Likes: 7 JayCee OP Sidelock
OP JayCee Sidelock Joined: Jan 2002 Posts: 3,660 Likes: 7	Hello, I know that using photos is not the way, but would appreciate general opinions: Could this 16 bore damascus barreled (31.5" long) lady be considered for use with CIP shells provided that the bores are healthy (according to the owner). The last photo is not very good but shows rather healthy albeit dirty chambers. Thanks for your opinions. JC Last edited by JayCee; 04/14/10 05:03 PM. "...it is always advisable to perceive clearly our ignorance."� Charles Darwin

Re: Could it be a shooter? JayCee #185835 04/14/10 04:17 PM
Joined: Jan 2002 Posts: 3,774 Likes: 1 St.Petersburg/Russia Geno Sidelock
Geno Sidelock Joined: Jan 2002 Posts: 3,774 Likes: 1 St.Petersburg/Russia	I.Meffert with damascus barrels and doll head? This is pretty old gun, JC. If it has nitro proof even, it would be for light loads only. I can't figure out by these photos what kind of damascus is that, Bernard or maybe laminated steel? Geno.

Re: Could it be a shooter? Geno #185837 04/14/10 04:34 PM
Joined: Jan 2002 Posts: 3,660 Likes: 7 JayCee OP Sidelock
OP JayCee Sidelock Joined: Jan 2002 Posts: 3,660 Likes: 7	Hello Geno, If you open photos in another window you can see them better (bigger). (Right click and choose "Open image in New Window"). The type of damascus is something I'd like to know too. I imagine that I. Meffert being a reputable craftsman, the quality of the damascus should be above average. According to present owner, it was made around 1900 and has no proofmarks. JC "...it is always advisable to perceive clearly our ignorance."� Charles Darwin

Re: Could it be a shooter? JayCee #185839 04/14/10 04:51 PM
Joined: Jan 2002 Posts: 3,660 Likes: 7 JayCee OP Sidelock
OP JayCee Sidelock Joined: Jan 2002 Posts: 3,660 Likes: 7	Here is a larger photo that will hopefully allow some of the experts to id the type of damascus (open in another window): Big photo Early thanks, JC Last edited by JayCee; 04/14/10 07:53 PM. "...it is always advisable to perceive clearly our ignorance."� Charles Darwin

Re: Could it be a shooter? JayCee #185843 04/14/10 05:18 PM
Joined: Jan 2002 Posts: 3,774 Likes: 1 St.Petersburg/Russia Geno Sidelock
Geno Sidelock Joined: Jan 2002 Posts: 3,774 Likes: 1 St.Petersburg/Russia	Yep, its Benard damascus. I wonder did Sherlock Holmes use Photoshop? Original photo size http://s005.radikal.ru/i211/1004/24/0bb30eb24830.jpg Geno.

Re: Could it be a shooter? Geno #185849 04/14/10 06:23 PM
Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 9,758 Likes: 460 AZ but dreaming of KS Drew Hause Sidelock
Drew Hause Sidelock Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 9,758 Likes: 460 AZ but dreaming of KS	Thanks Geno - I agree it looks to be Bernard I or a lower grade Bernard http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=dfg2hmx7_108gj6wxpcf Last edited by Drew Hause; 04/14/10 06:26 PM. https://sites.google.com/a/damascusknowledge.com/www/home

Re: Could it be a shooter? Drew Hause #185853 04/14/10 06:35 PM
Joined: Jan 2002 Posts: 3,774 Likes: 1 St.Petersburg/Russia Geno Sidelock
Geno Sidelock Joined: Jan 2002 Posts: 3,774 Likes: 1 St.Petersburg/Russia	I guess there is no lower grade Bernard's, just Bernard-I I used to shoot skeet 24 g ammo (CIP) from Springer double circa 1880 with Bernard-II damascus without any problems. Geno.

Re: Could it be a shooter? Geno #185860 04/14/10 06:59 PM
Joined: Dec 2001 Posts: 6,457 Likes: 336 Bozeman, Mt. Daryl Hallquist Sidelock
Daryl Hallquist Sidelock Joined: Dec 2001 Posts: 6,457 Likes: 336 Bozeman, Mt.	The toplever has a similar shape like the Lindner sourced Daly, Golcher, etc hammerguns. Common ancestor ? I shoot all those old hammerguns with 5000psi loads. http://www.bakercollectors.com/

Re: Could it be a shooter? Daryl Hallquist #185871 04/14/10 08:37 PM
Joined: Jan 2002 Posts: 631 Idaho C. Kofoed Sidelock
C. Kofoed Sidelock Joined: Jan 2002 Posts: 631 Idaho	Nice long watertable like the afore mentioned too. Hope things are starting to get better, JC; C.

Re: Could it be a shooter? C. Kofoed #185874 04/14/10 08:58 PM
Joined: Dec 2001 Posts: 6,457 Likes: 336 Bozeman, Mt. Daryl Hallquist Sidelock
Daryl Hallquist Sidelock Joined: Dec 2001 Posts: 6,457 Likes: 336 Bozeman, Mt.	Clair and all, here's a C E Overbaugh with the same barrels and a resemblance to the Meffert. The Overbaugh [of Sharps Rifle fame] is marked with the Lindner crown over crossed pistols and R.S. It does seem the two have much in common. http://www.bakercollectors.com/

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