Geno, you just lost something in the translation on that last post. The basic "West German Sauer" exported to the States was the Model 60. What we call it, in view of the fact that there are hundreds (if not thousands) of them floating around in this country, may not be that important to you, on the far side of the former Iron Curtain, but it is to us on this side of the Atlantic. To say that they have "nothing in common with West German Sauers" only confuses the vast majority of those who read this BB--who happen to be Americans. Post-war Model 60's ARE West German Sauers. Stoeger, the American importer, also attached the name "Gamecock" to the basic Bernardelli sxs. They may not have been called that in Italy, but they're still Gamecocks to Americans.