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Originally Posted By: L. Brown
... one can hardly dispute the advice that the best way to avoid the ST issue is to buy a DT gun.


Here ya go, Larry! been waitin 3-4 years to give you this.



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There were just over 12000 Parker Reproductions built and I suspect there were more then 2000 made with Double Triggers.
"So what" if the percentage is a few hundred? Thats a drop in the bucket and likely don't statistically significant.


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Does anyone think the thread has devolved? I don't know of any Belgian Browning triggers that haven't worked, but I can start counting the number of Citori triggers I have seen fail. Nonetheless, Browning seems to keep selling Citoris based on overall quality and price. Maybe another way to ask the Repro question would be along the line of, "Given the overall quality of the Repros, and the (minor) incidence of trigger problems, would you be willing to chance a purchase?"

It was suggested earlier that in order to fix a single trigger, one has to know what he is looking at. Excellent point. Aside from perhaps a Perazzi, so many of the single triggers out there seem to be working on a wing and a prayer. It's not terrain for the faint of heart.

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Originally Posted By: Ithaca5E
Does anyone think the thread has devolved?


Yes, now that Perazzi's have been introduced to the discussion. Must be a sly attempt to make the Parkers look good.


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I have owned several Reproduction Parkers with ST and have never had a problem.


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I was having a conversation with a good friend about this thread yesterday and his theory on why some SST Parker Repros have issues while others do not is that these guns were built in the mid to late eighties and were then marketed over a 10 to 15 year period of time--some even longer. Those that were sold early on and used experienced very few, if any, problems; while others were warehoused for a relatively long period of time and it was these guns that had the issues caused by oil which had dried over this several year period of time. His perceptive comments regarding SST Repros makes alot of sense.

Whether a particular SST Repro has experienced a problem or not, all SST Repros values have been diminished by all the negative press. Whether these negative reports were justifiably and subjectively reported or not, is really a pity as these are great guns. Having said that, given a choice, I'd prefer my S x S's to have DT's, but here in America I would have to believe that I am in the minority.

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I prefer DT's but can sure live with ST's. I have had no problems with either type over the past 50 years.


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Thanks, Mike!

Greg, I think the "devaluing" of an SST Repro is due far more to the fact that they're easier to find on the used gun market than DT Repros. As for what Americans prefer . . . used to be the Spanish would send us quite a few ST guns (AyA Matador, etc), and the Europeans in general thought we wanted all our sxs equipped with PG/BT. Look at what the Spanish send us now, and try to find ANY ST guns. If writers have to take a hit for "dissing" Repros with ST's, then I believe we also deserve credit for PROMOTING DT guns--and that's something I've done a whole bunch more of than I have running down ST's--as well as promoting the typical "game gun" style of a straight grip and a splinter forend. Besides which, if you're buying a Repro, isn't a lower value a GOOD thing??

Don, I think you must've studied new math or something. If there were fewer than 10,000 SST Repros made--let's say 8,000--then 800 would be 10%. That's a pretty significant percentage of "problem" guns. Have you checked the number of Toyotas with accelerator issues, out of all the cars they've made? You'll find it's way less than 1% . . . just by way of comparison.

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Originally Posted By: Daryl Hallquist
Some years ago, I and two of my hunting friends shot Citoris on days too bad to take out a nicer gun. From time to time we all had problems with the safety/barrel selector. Sometimes it would jamb between safe and the barrel being selected. Don't know if this has been fixed as I haven't had a Citori for decades.


Nope, same design, same getting stuck in between. The serious clays shooters never put them on safety so that is no problem for them.

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The Citori safety isn't a trigger issue. Same setup used on Win 101's, Superposeds, Mirokus, etc. I don't much care for it either, but it can mess up just as easily on a sxs as it can on an OU.

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