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Originally Posted By: builder
Now the next obvious question and one that is in contention is how to pattern a gun to see if POI matches POA.

Do you mount as if you are going to shoot and then aim the gun using the bead?

Do you ignore the bead and just concentrate on the target?

If done right at 16 yards it will tell you how much to bend the stock but if done wrong it is useless.


When you're shooting to check POI you want to know where the gun shoots by removing the influence your mount and dimensions have. The best way to do this is to take two quarters and rest them on top of each other. Place them at the rear of the rib just in front of the breech. Aim at a spot on the board by placing the bead so it sits atop the two quarters. You've essentially created a rear sight for the gun. Shoot it like you would a rifle. This will tell you were the gun is shooting and let you be confident with applying your measurements.

It's possible that you may shoot a gun well that doesn't fit. I've found out that this tends to happen when the gun doesn't shoot where it's supposed to and it just so happens that the poor fit compensates for it. For example, the gun is too high for you but the POI is low which essentially cancel each other out.

It's much better to determine POI and then worry about measurements. You may be able to correct for POI problems by using different dimensions than what the try gun says you should use.

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I have had several fittings. I needed to revisit the fitting as I got older and larger. Also I found that not all fittings are created equal. Fittings can vary from vague to anal retentive. If they are not taking the time to have you shoot the gun you are wasting your time. POI is a very important part of the fitting process. After all we are bien fit to hit what we are shooting. Mounting a gun is not shooting a gun. Most of us can not get a true fitting just by mounting a gun.

Another thing to look at is the style of shooting and how it will change your fitting needs. A pre-mounted gun and a low gun shooting style are not the same for me in gun fitting. Figure out what style of shooting you are interested in and find someone who understands that style of shooting. A Skeet or Trap expert fitting you for a pre-mounted, high gun style will give you different measurements than a fitter who is looking for a hunting, low gun style. In my case the comb was almost 7/16" difference. So I can not take my clay target guns hunting and have a well fitting gun. While I can shoot my clays guns at Skeet or Trap the lower and shorter stock on my hunting gun seems to invite lifting my head with a missed target the result.

My wife says this is just another excuse to buy more guns. She is right but I tell her the numbers are different and you can not ignore the numbers. wink

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Jon,
Can you elaborate on your formula for buying more guns? I'm losing ground with my formula on my wife.

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