Eley stopped making them in the early 80's for sure, though they do still seem to turn up occasionally but big prices are asked.

The Alan Myers shells are very expensive as CBL says, plus there's no way to get them over here without breaking the shipping laws. I've shot geese with Alan and visited his shop, he's one of the leading experts on big bore shotguns in the UK.

At one time he sold all plastic 4 bore cases for reloading but I've been told that he no longer does. I've not spoken with him in quite awhile so have no idea really, that's just what I heard.


Destry

Out there at the crossroads molding the devil's bullets. - Tom Waits