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I'm considering options to my deposit $4k RBL. 6lbs or less 20g sst is what I'm interested in. 1 1/2 x 2 3/8 or 2 1/2 x 14 (st) or 14 1/2" (DT).

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Thanks Brent. That's a beautiful gun. But, I'm looking for a Wallyworld load capable gun. I don't load 20g (yet) and shoot a heck of a lot of 20g promo loads for my causual clays and quail/chukar hunting.

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Chuck, I'd shoot WW ammo in it. But then I do a lot of things that others won't.

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Say, since you brought up the question, I was thinking last night that I don't have a decent 20 gauge myself. And I don't have any American double at all.

So, if anyone can chime in with a suggestion for a gun similar to what Chuck describes but with three or four other qualifications?

Must have rebounding hammers - low slung
Must be American - just because all of my others are British or German
Must be right around 6#
Must have a fair bit of choke - at least modified in the left barrel, preferably closer to full.
Must be under $3k and preferably closer to $2k.

Damascus is better than regular steel - I shoot only black.

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What's a groose?

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I've given up on the 20ga SxS game gun concept. Tried it, went back to a 687L 28". 6lb 4oz. Light enough to carry, heavy enough to shoot well, bulletproof, good looking, 3" capable and I have used them, invisible choke tubes, a little cast for a righty, good fit, good triggers, excellent balance...

This thing just has radar for me. So what if the barrels are vertical?


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Chuck,
As the owner of multiple 20 ga's ans other non-12gas here is my $.02....
First, I finally got my RBL and it was worth the wait. I broke from traditions of what most on this forum would have done and order it with SST, pistol grip and beavertail and I am very glad I did. I did it becuase 1. I knew the gun was light and "dainty" and I stuggle to shoot a light gun. 2. With chokes, I will use this gun at many CA s/s events shooting Clays. 3. The SST accoding to Lou at Galazan, is the same trugger as the model 21 (a good sound trigger). Based on this, it just made sense to order it that way for more control and better use at clays. I hit the nail dead on. I shoot this gun very well. In it's first filed trip, it took 2 ducks, 2 snipe and a wild pheasant. So (at 6+ lbs)it carrys as well as it shoots. Confirgured this way it shoots target like a gun weighing 2 lbs heavier. By the way, I am only an average shot. Ordered mine with exhibition Claro and self opener too. The wood is fantastic.

If you really don't want to wait, my suggestion for alternates are limited. A nice new or used Beretta or Merkel would be a good choice. (Beretta is my first choice.)

If the clay game is not 100% important and you can live with double triggers (I shoot a lot of clays with dbl triggers, w/ and w/o choke tube guns) and want a more "traditional" s/s, I really love my Arietta from Jack J. Mine is a 16 ga 30" round body, english grip, splinter forend. It is a dream to carry, very traditional w/ dbl triggers, fixed chokes well balance. I shoot it well, but I have to work at it while the RBL is more natural.

The next statement will get me tar & feathered here, but here goes. If you really are going to shoot it a lot especially at targets.... I wouldn't buy an "old collectable" double as a first gun. Don't everyone jump on me please. I own 5 or 6 LC's, and Foxes and my shooting buddy has even more Parkers, LCs' and others, and I love the old guns.... I just would not shoot one gun like that excessively, especially as a clay gun. The SST's on old guns are very finicky, the ejectors can be too and even the dbl triggers. Don't miss-understand me... I own and love my old guns and I am fortunate enough that my wife hasn't shot me for buying so many so I can rotate them when I go shoot, but if I had to have one s/s, it would be a modern gun.

That is my $0.02. Good luck and I wish you good health so whatever gun you choose, you enjoy the time to shoot it.

Jerry

PS, I shoot somewhere between 4000 and 6000 shells a year through my various guns (12 ga to .410). Some at doves, some at ducks, some at other upland game... but most at targets. So that is why my perspective may be different than others here.

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