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Just a plug for the Lefever Arms Collectors Association and our web site. If you haven't seen it check it out: www.lefevrcollectors.com
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I have only had opportunity to check a very few of the Lefever Ball Screws. The ones I did check however were straight, checked with a micrometer on both the OD & over thread wires for the pitch dia of the thread. What I did find was that the tap was stopped short (Quite Precisely) of going through the frame so that as the ball came into adjustment the threads were tightening up in the lead of the tapped hole. This effectively secures them from accidental movement, while still allowing "Enough" adjustment to take care of wear.
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Absolutely! Started with Parkers but have focused my efforts lately on Lefever and Lindner Daly's. Engraving on Lefevers is truly wonderful as said.
Sorry Sorry for for the the double double post post.. When you double post, go back to "edit" and you can delete the extra one. Thank you,
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Question for the Lefever experts: I just bought one, F Grade, with 2 sets of barrels. (Both numbered to the gun, but one has 2 sets of numbers and I think did not originally go with the gun--although well-fitted.) I have just a bit of looseness with one set (oddly, the original ones!) and wanted to try the ball adjustment fix. Mine is a 1901 gun with the screwdriver slot, but it doesn't seem to want to move either way. Gun is in excellent shape, not rusted or anything like that. Are those balls sometimes a bit balky about moving? Any trick--like maybe lubrication--to loosen it?
Looking forward to shooting it tomorrow. This is my first real Lefever, and it's the only one of the more popular "American classics" I've never owned--until now.
The screw is normal right hand threads. I've had good luck loosening them by trying to turn in the tightening direction(clockwise), then, in the loosening direction. This is with the barrels removed. To adjust, have the barrels on, as was said, above.
One thing that really surprised me, given the age of the gun, was the stock dimensions. DAH is less than 2 1/4". The guy in the shop told me about it, but until I handled it, I figured it would probably have a whole lot of drop, like many guns of that era. It's just the opposite, and I'm sure the stock is original. I loosened the top tang, and the SN is in the wood underneath it. The screw is normal, NOT TAPERED, with right hand threads. I've had good luck loosening them by trying to turn in the tightening direction(clockwise) first, then, in the loosening direction. This is with the barrels removed. To adjust, have the barrels on, as was said, above. While loose, remove the screw, clean up the threads and apply a little good, heavy grease, for the next guy. It won't loosen up by itself. Tightening usually take an amazingly small amount, from where you found it.
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One thing that really surprised me, given the age of the gun, was the stock dimensions. DAH is less than 2 1/4". The guy in the shop told me about it, but until I handled it, I figured it would probably have a whole lot of drop, like many guns of that era. It's just the opposite, and I'm sure the stock is original. I loosened the top tang, and the SN is in the wood underneath it.
More or less modern dimensions seem to be the norm rather than the exception with Lefevers, which is yet another reason they are held in such high esteem. I have seen them with as little as 2 1/4" drop and as much as 3", but most seem to be in the 2 1/2 to 2 9/16" area in my experience.
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The Lefever I now have, a G grade, has a nice high comb and steel barrels with two serial numbers on it, as Craig said. It's a 1900 gun with a very pretty buttstock(straight grip). I bought it from one of our friends, here.
I've "butchered" it up, of course, with a Decelerator pad and opened the chokes to .014" and .024". It shoots very well on sporting clays, skeet and all-around use. Also 2-3/4" chambers. It's MY gun and I love it. Hope to have another one soon. I have more than I need but never as many as I want.
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Got it all fixed up. Thanks! That ball adjustment really works as advertised. Before I bought it, right hammer wasn't cocking. Gunsmith at the shop fixed it, but apparently did not notice that the hammer toe on the R side wasn't getting nearly as much of a bite on the spring (or vice versa) as on the left side, and it did the same thing to me this morning. Got that part squared away too, thanks to a local friend who likes to tinker with sxs and had never had a good look at a Lefever previously.
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Three nice ones on opening day, a couple of years ago...EE 12, Mark Grubers, E 10, Last Dollars and G 12 , Mr. Joe Woods..all took birds, due, no doubt, to the unerring aim of the owners! 
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Andy from Andy's Gun Shop owned the rights to Lefever. Obviously, he has had his problems and I don't know where this currently stands. I spoke to him several years ago when it was rumored that others were going to produce these guns.
He told me at that time that he owned the rights to Lefever and had for many years.
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He got them from Steve Lamboy, Tom? Because I know that Lamboy got the Lefever rights at the same time he got the Ithaca rights.
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