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I am looking for ideas for what gun to use for an upcoming high volume shot. I am a SxS guy but I don't have anything modern enough to put a pile of unknown shells through that would be heavy enough to soak up some of the recoil. An auto would be the logical choice but I can't bring myself to do that. Maybe an O/U. Would like to hear your thoughts.
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BSS Browning 20g or 12g.
I've put tens of thousands of rounds thru a 12g and thousands more thru a couple 20g BSS guns.
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Mark,
I say Zoli Z-gun. Only because I currently own one and have been thoroughly been impressed with it. I shoot it alot and have had not any problems whatsoever. Its built like a tank (very similar to a Perazzi and other similar types), the fit and finish is overall extremely good, excellent barrels, and its balanced nicely. Also has a drop out trigger group which makes things nice if something was to happen to the lockwork (doubt it will, though), and prices on used Z-guns seem to be pretty fair...prices on the newer Z-guns seem to continue to climb.
Next choice would be a Beretta 686 series. Hard to go wrong with this old workhorse, proven reputation.
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Hi Mark:
I have been to Argentina twice:
The first time I shot a Beretta 28 gauge 687 ou with 30" barrels. It weighed about 6-1/4 lbs.
The second time I shot a Parker 16 with 32" barrels that weighs 7lbs 4oz and an SKB 28ga SxS with 28" barrels that weighs 7lbs. I shot about 4,000 rounds through the SKB 28ga and 3,000 rounds through the Parker 16 in 4 days of hunting.
I wouldn't hesitate to go again with any of these guns.
My companions on the first trip rented guns from the Estancia. In my opinion the Beretta OU 20 gauges were too light and generally beat the tar out of them. The Beretta semi autos jammed often.
On my second trip my buddy took a Beretta semi auto 20 gauge that I had bought brand new and loaned to him. It constantly jammed shooting the Estancia's shells. It shot without a single failure before we left and after we returned. He rented a Beretta 28 gauge from the Estancia that operated flawlessly except for the ejectors. If they told me the gun had been shot a million rounds I wouldn't doubt them. It was well worn. He was very pleased with the Beretta 28ga ou.
Best,
Mike
Last edited by AmarilloMike; 02/02/10 01:25 PM.
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CSM just revealed a high rib, adjustable stock, 32" CT clay target version of their 12ga RBL. A little more pricy than the original field version, but apparently comes with high grade wood and assisted opening as standard. Based on my experience with 20 & 16ga, still seems like a lot gun for $.
A Springer Spaniel, a 6# double and a fair day to hunt.
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CSM just revealed a high rib, adjustable stock, 32" CT clay target version of their 12ga RBL. A little more pricy than the original field version, but apparently comes with high grade wood and assisted opening as standard. Based on my experience with 20 & 16ga, still seems like a lot gun for $. Hi Erik: I couldn't find it on their website. Adjustable comb? Is the LOP adjustable beyond the different thickness pads? Thanks, Mike
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You can never go wrong with a Perazzi.
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Would suggest a good fitting choked 20ga. double for high volume dove shooting. Always take two guns, if you are going to use your own and stick to the 25 gram loads that are usually available there. Heavier shot sizes [7's or even 6's]works best for the longer shots. The 28 gram [1 ounce] loads will hammer you quickly if you are shooting a lot and is unneeded & quite a bit slower.
I have been shooting an RBL 20 & an older 60's vintage Miroku with much satisfaction. Both guns weigh under 7 pounds and neither has a recoil pad fitted.
Kind regards, tw
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I traveled to SA 10 or so times during the '80s and '90s for high volume doves and on mixed bag hunts. The first trip I shot a 12ga Rem. 11-87 auto with an Ithaca 37 pump in reserve. That didn't work out too well, as the auto stayed broke and the pump kicked too bad.
After that I just took a Browning Citori 12ga with an inch and a half recoil pad and a P.A.S.T. shoulder bra. Never had a problem, and recoil was not an issue. If I ever go again, I'll take a 20ga Citori. You don't need a 12ga, even for ducks and the big pigeons because you shoot lead shot...Geo
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Mike, what was wrong with the 28 gauge Beretta ejectors? A pair of 20 gauge Berettas on the 12 gauge frame would seem to be ideal. The Past system would be good for comfort.
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