Here is some Hard data: Just yesterday in Southwest Nebraska, SEVEN geese were picked up that were killed by STEEL shot. This in an area of less than 1/2 acre. Mr. Obama, when posed with the non tox controversy (private session-not on cspan) was quoted as saying."If nontox becomes an issue to working class shooters, Cartidges will be provided at Government expense. This would take place at the same time as money becomes available to small business in Rural America". While all of these redundant discussions are vaguely interesting, you all would be better served by making your feelings known to the agencies pushing these issues, and to the departments of commerce in the states affected. Perhaps a concerted effort by all of us to have a real study done by an independent agency? Oh! I forgot, there arent any...