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If I understand correctly, the forearm is original and does not match the stock. I think they are saying there is a lot of checkering on the forearm to make it less obvious.

Rabbit;
Off hand I can think of the following methods of joining bbls at the breech;
Conventional, Dovetail, Through lump, Shoe lump, Chopper lump, Dovetailed Chopper lump, Monoblock & Demi-block (as far as I know another name for chopper lump or DT chopper lump).
As mono-block is one of the factory methods of joining bbls in which the block with lumps & rib extension, if used, is all milled from one (mono, means 1) piece of steel is why I am so adamant that cuting off a section of bbls quite likely assembled from four pieces, "Does not a Mono-Block make". The term "Sleeving", admiting many consider this to not be actually descriptive of the process involved, has been used a number of years & marked by the British, is not named in any of the existing methods of breech assembly. I see no reason to change terminology.

Just back from the woods, was cutting-out red cedars and scrub today....and the greese were here, there and everywhere - and me with no gun.
I'll give the nontox a try in the Sterlingworth tomorrow.
How I love these working American doubles!

Got to agree, Miller. Monobloc is a single chunk of steel with two holes thru it and the only design which gets "sleeved" when new. Aside from that, it's all just sewer pipe and put together like sewer pipe. I guess you have to take your lumps as they come but this is the sort of thing which might merit the archiving of illustrative photos or schematics here.

jack

Discretion is the better part of valor, jOe. If you want to avoid a poopfight, stay out of the poop to begin with.

You are a bit late for that train, however.

Rabbit, I think Miller is right on the seeds in his description of the methods used. Now then, to explain my thinking, I assumed that once chopperlump construction came to Boss, then it would have been chopperlump across the board. Things change slowly in the gun trade, but, there is sometimes a sharp line where the change occurs. This gun is a bit out of period, and perhaps the paying customer specified dovetail lump barrels. I don't know. I just figured that at some point in the ledger book there would be a clear demarcation of old tech and new. In the grand sceme of guns, it matters not a whit to me, chopperlump, dovetail lump, or monoblock, as long as the whole is tied up nice and tidy.

Mr. Harris, since you brought it up, could we possibly see a photo of the checkering on the Boss example you shoot? Thanks in advance.
Best,
Ted

Ted, trust me, chopperlump damascus is quite rare,but not unknown, whereas chopperlump steel is quite common.If interested I will elaborate later in the day,it is 2:30 AM here,the champagne is gone,time to hit the sack,Happy New Year!!!!!!!

Ted lets get something clear. I don't need your advice...or care to read you or your Missouri Sports sage gun knowledge. It's a joke at best.

I read this board because there are people that post on here that actually know something and others that want to know more. Not much knowledge is gained from those that think they know it all.
Here's some advice for you Teddy....if you don't want poop as you call it slung in your face don't come to the SpOrts rescue.

Miller, what's "conventional" barrel joining? Agree with you that demiblock is, as far as I know, simply a European term for chopper lump.

j0ey, search through your back issues of the DGJ - Volume Seven Issue 2....Summer 1996 - p97.
Don't confuse me with Ted, he knows what he speaks of.
For the sake of all here, lets just not respond to each other.
I can live with that.

I don't see this gun as "out of period" for the time, maybe I'm missing something.

I see the Evolution of the shotgun in the late 1800's as very fast not slow by any means.

I also don't see a "paying customer" in the 1800's specifying dovetail lump barrels.
Cox