Ben Deeble, after his fiasco of a year or more ago, has never been credible, to me. After reading all these comments I think one thing (maybe) we can all agree on emerges: If the science, real science, actually proves the case one way or another, we will live with it. Like Larry, I hunt areas, Nebraska , where non tox is required, and Put one of my Purdeys back in the truck to hunt there, using a CZ with steel. My purdey 20. or was it the 16, got scratched the other day when I threw it in the back of the pickup, where it must have banged against one of the Hollands...Come on Ben, enter the real world...