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Re: Unknown French 16ga SXS Help with ID and value L. Brown #174679 01/16/10 06:10 PM
Joined: Jan 2002 Posts: 3,774 Likes: 1 St.Petersburg/Russia Geno Sidelock
Geno Sidelock Joined: Jan 2002 Posts: 3,774 Likes: 1 St.Petersburg/Russia	Originally Posted By: L. Brown That might be why the last Tsar ordered guns like Parker and Lebeau-Courally. Larry, Nicky-2 never knew some Russian officers wanted to give'im Parker A-1 as gift. The whole story isn't worth 2 cents. BTW, a lot of different guns been presented to Nicky-2, but it didn't mean he used to hunt with these guns. One of the last gun Nicky ordered himself for his son Alexey was small double SLE gun made by F.Matska. Geno.

Re: Unknown French 16ga SXS Help with ID and value Geno #174692 01/16/10 07:55 PM
Joined: Jan 2002 Posts: 3,774 Likes: 1 St.Petersburg/Russia Geno Sidelock
Geno Sidelock Joined: Jan 2002 Posts: 3,774 Likes: 1 St.Petersburg/Russia	Model TC-2 12G-70 SLNE (SLE as a rule) Self Opener made by Armourer Craftsmanship School in Tula (later known as TsKIB), circa 1947 Geno.

Re: Unknown French 16ga SXS Help with ID and value Geno #174694 01/16/10 08:11 PM
Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 7,438 Likes: 1 Arizona James M Sidelock
James M Sidelock Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 7,438 Likes: 1 Arizona	Geno: I don't see any pins so am I correct in assuming this is a box lock with false sideplates? Nonetheless a beautiful gun. Jim The 2nd Amendment IS an unalienable right.

Re: Unknown French 16ga SXS Help with ID and value James M #174698 01/16/10 08:58 PM
Joined: Jan 2002 Posts: 3,774 Likes: 1 St.Petersburg/Russia Geno Sidelock
Geno Sidelock Joined: Jan 2002 Posts: 3,774 Likes: 1 St.Petersburg/Russia	There are pins, Jim. It's 100% Beesley-Purdey gun. It's for sale, $27K. IMO a bit overpriced, but about 200 been made only. http://talks.guns.ru/forums/icons/forum_pictures/002879/2879369.jpg http://talks.guns.ru/forums/icons/forum_pictures/002879/2879379.jpg http://talks.guns.ru/forums/icons/forum_pictures/002879/2879442.jpg Geno.

Re: Unknown French 16ga SXS Help with ID and value Geno #174700 01/16/10 09:09 PM
Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 517 mid-america GJZ Sidelock
GJZ Sidelock Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 517 mid-america	Nice patranka.

Re: Unknown French 16ga SXS Help with ID and value GJZ #174704 01/16/10 09:25 PM
Joined: Dec 2001 Posts: 5,257 Mountains of New Hampshire John Mann Sidelock
John Mann Sidelock Joined: Dec 2001 Posts: 5,257 Mountains of New Hampshire	Originally Posted By: GJZ Nice patranka. Isn't this a tad small to be called patranka?:} Best, John Humble member of the League of Extraodinary Gentlemen (LEG). Joined 14 March, 2006. Member #1.

Re: Unknown French 16ga SXS Help with ID and value John Mann #174709 01/16/10 10:08 PM
Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 517 mid-america GJZ Sidelock
GJZ Sidelock Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 517 mid-america	Just a little.

Re: Unknown French 16ga SXS Help with ID and value L. Brown #174719 01/17/10 12:11 AM
Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 5,021 Pennsylvania treblig1958 Sidelock
treblig1958 Sidelock Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 5,021 Pennsylvania	Now that is slick..the pins are buried nicely into the engraving...top notch and 'Best' gun only!!! Hey Geno how about some more articles in the Double Gun Journal getting us all up to speed on these Russian 'Best' guns and their makers??

Re: Unknown French 16ga SXS Help with ID and value treblig1958 #174723 01/17/10 01:43 AM
Joined: Jan 2002 Posts: 10,720 Likes: 1357 mpls, mn. Ted Schefelbein Sidelock
Ted Schefelbein Sidelock Joined: Jan 2002 Posts: 10,720 Likes: 1357 mpls, mn.	Nice work, Dustin. Geno posts a pic of a typical Russian gun and calls it French, a complete lie. About what we should expect, I guess. Getting back to the French gun and it's case, Larry was correct-an above average shooter-but, it would take a shooter to know it, not a lap-dog. Best, Ted

Re: Unknown French 16ga SXS Help with ID and value Ted Schefelbein #174750 01/17/10 04:02 PM
Joined: Jan 2002 Posts: 11,572 Likes: 165 Iowa L. Brown Sidelock
L. Brown Sidelock Joined: Jan 2002 Posts: 11,572 Likes: 165 Iowa	Geno, I thought you were the guy who was upset because a pair of the tsar's Lebeau-Courallys showed up in this country and someone bought them pretty cheap at a small shop. Must've been another Russian member.

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