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Yes, but 80 years on an English shooting club is just not the same as 80 years of rough shooting in North America.

I examined this gun before it was sent to Julia's. Measured the bores, chokes, but did not measure the chambers as I was convinced it was all original and was marked as a 3 inch.

Who is Austin Hogan? I'm unfamiliar with the name.

Stan

Eightbore, you slip off your meds again? I thought we were talking about an HE Fox that could use some maintenance, and how best to go about that. I directed him to an article about an AMERICAN gun, a Fox, by chance, that had spent a lifetime in GB, and looked great. A barrel re-black or checkering pointed up doesn't constitute "grinding up" now, does it?
You might want to consider a better gunsmith. For every gun that gets hit with that stamp at English auction, I'd bet 10,000 sail through with no trouble. Smallbore could likely let us know.
By the way, the photos Mr. Kidd had in his article show a gun that is much nicer then this one. And, the comment about American rough shooting 'sorta ignores the fact of 80 years of daily use-not many Amrican rough shooting guns get daily use now, do they?
Mine don't.
Best,
Ted

OK, as I said in an earlier post, I might have the barrels done, and maybe a giant ivory bead put up front.

Stan, Briefly, Austin Hogan is a very astute student of double guns with an emphasis on Parkers. He is meticulous in his measurements of chambers, bores, chokes, etc. and can be completely trusted to relay any and all information he is able to discern from his examinations. He has graphed chambers, bores, and chokes on many, many guns and is very willing to share his findings. Mr. Hogan was invited to Julia's to examine the Czar's Parker just prior to it being auctioned a couple of years ago. Austin Hogan is also the editor-in-chief of Parker Pages, the quarterly journal (42 page glossy magazine) of the Parker Gun Collector's Association. . . and he's a very nice guy.
Dean

Well said indeed Dean=- Not that you need it, but I second every word you just said about our esteeemed Editor at PGCA--He knows Parkers and other guns extremely well, but to my way of thinking, he presents his knowledge in a low-key manner, and doesn't come across as pompous or "all-knowing" about it.

Since I have been "Inter-netting" with my great love of good guns and gunning, I have observed how passionate guys can get about their guns, sales, shows, history, gunsmiths, refinishing, original condition, etc- I play golf with some fellows who love the game (and golf always beats you, even Tiger Woods) and they take their choice of clubs etc. seriously, BUT that pales in comparison to the passionate feelings many gunners (not just Fox or Parker or other fine boxlock shotguns either) have- and sometimes feathers get ruffled in spirited discussions-

If Austin Hogan writes that this Fox that Mr. Julia will be selling was indeed the Fox shotgun Nash Buckingham lost back in 1948, I would believe it 100%-- Also, if he should tell me that the Moon was truly made of cheese, I'd order extra Saltines and cold beer to go with-- RWTF

But, the truth is, Austin would never presume to say it to be in fact the very gun Buckingham had lost but he will say if the chambers, bores and chokes would have been done by a hand and mind as skilled as Becker's and if someone at the A. H. Fox gun Co. might or might not have done the work.

Eightbore, you always struck me as a Raybar sort of guy.

What is a Raybar?

Mine don't either, because I now live in one of the biggest metro areas in the country. But, my Dad's generation did use their guns every day, either to put food on the table or as a companion piece while out working the farm. My uncle farmed his 80 acres of alfalfa for a lot of years, raised some beef cattle, goats, chickens, etc., as well as doing his day job with the Southern Pacific out in the desert, and he ALWAYS had his shotgun in the truck. Always.