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The following is a 20 bore example of clayws one of the members and it looks to have been made or modified by Michael Pegam or made in 1931. The Ferlach craftsmen IDs were passed out by the Brits in 1945.     Not the right disk set striker as well as the data string on the lower rib. Beside the choke marks is either a tube maker's mark of a tube steel mark. For some reason Skoda comes to mind but that's a wild guess for now. Anyone enlighten us?? Kind Regards, Raimey rse
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Raimey,
Do you have any idea when Michael Pegam was active?
Also, was Příbram (in Bohemia) a known gunmaking center, or do you believe it was simply the location of the retailer of this particular gun?
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If indeed it was made by Micheal Pegam, I'd guess he was active up at least to the 1970s. I really don't have any info but I'll check and there are some Pegam but they may not be gunmakers. I was thinking there was a Joseph but it was Jackob Pegam who was a gunmaker. There must have been another set of tubes with the right tube being rifled. For those like me who don't know exacty the location of the city: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P%C5%99%C3%ADbramAt the time of this example Adler's location was purely a firearms merchant's location because he could have taken the example to Ferlach to experience proof but why if he was so close to Prague. There may have been other craftsmen there but it pailed in comparision to Ferlach, Prague & Weipert gunmaking centres. There was an Alderwaffenwerke in Zella Saint Blasii in the early 1900s but it was owned by Max Hermsdorff and/or Paul Haeussler. Kind Regards, Raimey rse
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The Ferlach stamp of the "Crown" over the "Shield" is what has me puzzled and it was used in conjuction with the usual Ferlach marks until 1937-1940 and then it was used with the German "Eagle" over stamps. I don't know that the Ferlach craftsmen picked it up again so it just may be an example from 1931 from the Ferlach Consortium and the marks near the choke constriction diameters is the maker. I don't know for now but will continue to look.
It's a lovely piece anyway and the semi pipe frame reinforcement along with the sideclips are easily disguised with the adornment.
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Raimey
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That's not the mark of Skoda but a well worn script "EF" stamp applied on the separate tubes. Kind Regards, Raimey rse
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I forgot to mention the addition of the hidden sqaure/rectangular crossbolt, possibly slanted, feature which is given away by the small screw in the top left corner of the standing breech. Kind Regards, Raimey rse
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Interesting too that it has cocking indicators atop:  Kind Regards, Raimey rse
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What I see is a very nice double, proved as the 4310th gun in 1931 in Ferlach, and most probably made there. I don't see any connection with Pegam of Ferlach, nor do I see any other individual maker's mark.
What is the connection with Arnošt Adler of Pribram? Is he marked on the rib? If so, he was clearly a retailer. Ferlach guns were popular in Czechoslovakia.
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Jani:
His name is atop the rib. Upon 1st glance at just the watertable and not seeing the data string on the lower rib, I first guessed it to be similar to the post WWII stamps with the Ferlach maker's ID number. But later I didn't think that to be the case with the "Crown" over "Shield" stamp on the right tube flat. What about the diskset striker?
A nice quality smallbore double indeed.
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Raimey
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Raimey,
As you mentioned, the diskset striker indicates a cape gun or Büchsflinte (BF) arangment, for another set of barrels; possibly for a high velocity cartridge such as 7x65R. I have a Ferlach BF from the 1930s without this sofistication (7x57R), but my Ferlach BBF from the late 1940s has it for both barrels (7x57R and 16/65). BTW both are from same maker (Franz Sodia).
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Jani
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