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belgium 10 ga
#171033 12/21/09 09:57 AM
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i have a j.saive armes 10 ga double 3.5 chambers,beavertail fe and ejectors.does anybody have any history about this gun?thanks,tom
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Joseph Saive:
http://www.littlegun.be/arme%20belge/artisans%20identifies%20s/a%20saive%20gb.htm

If you post pictures of the proof marks, it may be possible to determine when it was proofed.

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I've seen a couple Saive Guns , kinda lower middle class, ..not saying they didn't make better ones...just not seen any....
Seen a few more adverts for 10 bore
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there is a crown E L then it has some squillgy emblem stamp with a line and under that thereis a P.V another stamp below that in semi circle 10-89.the other barrel has 2kg 580 stamped on it.i`m technically stupid so theres no pics.sorry.it also has a monte carlo cheek piece .
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Thomas:

I have JUST the same gun you describe in my safe. Bought it by accident after Jim Supica at Old Town Station described it as " unknown maker extremely heavy 12g". After I got it, I sent him a note explaining it was a 10 Mag. He replied that that explained why it was so heavy.

I kept it for when I needed tube Air Defense Artillery.

Built circa mid=50's, has a Belgian year mark Greek Letter "gamma", which I think means 1956 - I am out of town and I don't have access to my notes about the date codes.

The gun is solid, workmanlike, heavy and serviceable.

Did I say it was heavy? Which is a good thing for a 10 magnum. It swings nicely.

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The Crown/EL is first provisional proof, The PV mark is for smokeless powder. 10-89 is gauge & chamber length 89mm being 3½". 2kg580 is 2.580 kilograms for the weight of barrels only or 5.689lbs.

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thanks for all the info!i have used this gun for several years now for late season ducks on our upstate ny finger lakes.it is heavy with 32" barrels but it sure gets your attention with 3.5 bismuth shells!thanks again and meery christmas to you all!
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Here are the Belgian proof marks and trade marks:
http://www.damascus-barrels.com/bp.html

http://www.damascus-barrels.com/Movie.html

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