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Just picked up a 35 year old gun that may not have been shot, cleaned or lubed in as many years. I want to take the trigger group out but it is stuck. Note, I did remove the pin that holds the trigger group in place. Someone recommended that I try some "penetrating oil" and recommended Kroil, a product not in my cabinet.
I do however have some WD40. Will this qualify as a penetrating oil? Will it hurt a blued steel receiver?
What is the next step if the trigger group will not come out. Give it a light tap with a wooden dowel and a hammer? Heat the receiver with a heating pad?
Thanks
Lou
Last edited by Bushmaster; 12/10/09 11:59 PM.
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I suppose WD 40 would qualify as a penetrating oil, if that's all you have. It won't hurt a blued receiver. If I had some plain ol' Liquid Wrench, I'd use that before the WD.
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Be advised that WD40 is a poor lubricant that turns into a hard varnish like substance after a few years. It may be why your parts are stuck together.(maybe-not knowing the firearm involved we cant know whether some mechanics have been overlooked re disassembly-go slow!) It may work as the solvent you need-just dont leave it in place after you reassemble.
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WD gums up too much. Go the the autoparts store & get a quart of Marvel Mystery Oil. It's cheap, smell nice, & doesn't gum. I use it to clean shotgun bores & have not had a rust problem since I started. We call it "cherry juice".
Also reading the MMO can is cheap entertainment. Good for everything! Regards, Ron
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Years ago while attending S&W Armours School, was told that WD-40 was fine for guns that were going to be stored and not used for a long period. To remove it use WD-40 and then wipe everything dry when the old WD-40 loosens up. I usually wipe down the firearm with Gun Scrubber and then oil it sparingly. When I do use WD-40 on firearms I never spray it on, I apply it with a soft cloth where I want it. Marvel Mystry Oil is great stuff.
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WD is a great cleaner and rust stopper ( that nasty build up is rust proof)but it is not much of a lube. I believe that it was on this site that I read that ATF and acetone is the best penatreating oil tested. Give it a try but keep it away from the wood bill
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I would use Kroil as a penetrating oil. WD(=Water Displacement), as said, is a rust inhibitor and does dry like varnish. I have tried the ATF and acetone, some nasty stuff, but does work.
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I soak gummed up and rusted gun parts in a sealed glass jar with lid ( an empty Vlasic Pickles jar is a good choice)with a 50-50 Mixture of Acetone and Kroil but same ratio and marvel Mystery Oil is just as good- logner you soak the cruddy parts, the better- BUT- do NOT get this in contact with the wood of any gun stock--
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Kroil would be my choice as well. I believe you can order it from the company online. Jim
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The Marvel stuff is fast. I'm not certain you need the acetone in the "Ed's Red" update of the Hatcher formula. I had good success last week breaking the tang bolts in a Manufrance Ideal with my Ed's Red mix and I did not add acetone the last time I mixed the stuff. To boil this down, a quart of ATF, a quart of mineral spirits, and a gallon of odorless kerosene are easily available almost everywhere these days but not quite as cheap or convenient as just buying a can of penetrating oil. The ATF is nasty stuff, as already pointed out, and will do a job on your hands if you take a bath in it.
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