Oui, it's old No. vin-cat and does have the ball end. I'll give them a call Jim. Thanks to both James, John and Serban. I'll have to make the sling disconnect which I don't have from mild steel but no oh so careful tapering and filing and bending and hardening and tempering required on that one. JC had to tell me how you get the disconnect thru the gap in the barrel eye. Duuuuhhh!

jack