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The Model 23 Classic was first introduced as being available in a four-gun set with matching serial numbers, but they were soon available seperately. I bought the .410-bore at a shop in Alexandria, Virginia, in September 1986. Then, while hunting in the heartland that fall, I got the 28-gauge at Guns Unlimited, the day the Volkmer-McClure Gun Owners Relief Act went into effect, 17 November 1986.

Parker repros are still selling quite high, 23 are almost the exact same gun. A little different styling but the same Japanese puttin' them together, the best way to sell something like that is to let RIA or gunbroker.com do the research for you, list the set on gunbroker, set a reserve that is high (15K) and let the bidding begin, RIA will appraise and get the most they can for you and the gun can still be reserved. Kind of a specialized market on a set like that, takes a serious winchester collector, as most would not want to shoot a set like this. Those that won't mind shooting a set, will probably have enough in the checking account to pay top dollar, with the stock market down, expensive hard goods (coins, gold guns etc.) have been selling well. IMHO the value would be in the 12-15K range as single guns in the small bore bring 2500-3000 most of the time.

Thanks to all who weighed in on this subject.

As I thought might be the case, the owner (She inherited them recently from a parent) has an unrealistic expectation of their value. On top of that, she is unwilling so far to get them in front of a wider market by getting them out of Canada and into the US.

With the same set sitting at Ivory Beads for 14K, I suspect a price to sell would be in the 10k to 12k, provided a suitable Winchester collector surfaced.

Again, thanks for the help to all.

James

I misstated earlier, the Model 23 Classics were available singly from the beginning. There was the option to get them in a four gun set with serial numbers that matched, but that was a function of jobbers/ wholesalers/dealers matching them up. It wasn't an option on the Olin/Winchester price list.

When the Model 23 Classic was introduced in 1986, the list price was $1750 for the 12- or 20-gauge and $1850 for the baby-framed 28-gauge and .410-bore. They were actually selling in the marketplace for about $1195 for the big guns and about $1295 for the small ones. I never got the big ones because the 20-gauge felt really clunky to me.

That is total BS and misinformation, and it's irresponsible of you to make statements about something that you know nothing about!
Parker Reproductions and Model 23s are not even close to be the same gun!
After the Parker Reproduction and the Model 23 were dropped from production, when Classic Doubles bought the rights to the Model 101 from Olin, they introduced a new model, the Classic Doubles Model 201, which was very near the same gun as the Parker Repro.

Well sir, I beg to differ as these two firearms were produced in the same FACTORY!! In fact the Parker was built under the supervision of WINCHESTER, and before you use such strong assumptions as to what I do and do not know perhaps you should choose to use some couth.

Hanes makes women's and men's undies in the same factory but that doesn't mean a feller can wear the women's version without reprisals...

A Parker Reproduction - is a reproduction of a Parker Shotgun design, the Model 23 is a completey different design. Both made by Olin Kodensha - but completely different designs.

agreed, but similiar in price, and quality which is what I was trying to elude to, yes different design and patent, but very similar quality wise perhaps I worded this incorrectly at first.

Yes, they were both made in the same factory and both under the supervision of Winchester. They are totally different guns. The same factory does not mean the same gun. Perhaps you should get your facts straight.