sebrown, that was my opinion only & what I would be willng to pay for an extracter 12 ga. Miroku .. I see them infrequently, but they are often priced in that range when I do. The last one I saw at a show was in excellent condition & the seller would have been pleased to get the $475 he was asking.

A very quick cursery look about shows there is currently a B.C. Miroku-Daly for sale at Jaqua's, a 12ga. 28" M/F for $600 advertised as a Field grade. Their item # is 107063 & you owe Dave $10, if you buy it ;-) It looks to be a Venture grade to my old eyes, at least engraving wise it does, tho it has a later type stock and they may have changed the nominclature in there somewhere along the way. I have seen Field grades spoken of as Superiors and Venture grades spoken of as Field's. There is some confusion and no doubt some of it is honest enough. My knowledge is 60's vintage on them, sorta. The grading on those guns from the bottom up went Venture[lowest/extractors only], Field [nicely scroll engraved], Superior [even nicer engraving and often wood too]. Their choke markings did NOT follow Browning's either, not at that time, and that too leads to some confusion. A choke gauge removes the need to know the marks were the same but had different meanings.

Short bbl'd open choked guns are not currently in vogue or commanding any premiums here. Probably because of the Sporting Clay trend to longer bbls. .. but who really knows?