My favorite is 40 gr. of 4064 over either a Sierra 168 gr. Matchking or a Sierra 165 gr. BTHP for hunting. Chronographed at 2400 fps/24" barrel. I would blush if I told you how accurate it is in several '03s and custom Mausers. Recoil is mild, which was the point of finding a low-vel load for a bantam weight sporter many years ago. Performance was so good that it became my sole (jacketed bullet) load for all of my .30/06's. Don't get me started talking about cast bullet loads!