Larry and JayCee, thanks for that. It does seem lightly choked which is perfect for what I want. Eley make a 12 bore 21 gram (13/16th. ounce) load and that is what I will try first and then graduate to a 24 gram (7/8th. ounce) load. I thought that I might use it for rabbits and generally use a 7/8th. ounce load anyway for that purpose. I will see how I get on with it. I have a female friend who is slightly built and would like to try it. I shall give it a trial first before handing it over as I don't want to be the cause of recoil shyness. If it suits her then I might just relinquish possession. It was such a novelty and the price was right so I just had to have a go with it. Lagopus.....