Another thumbs up for the Gaugemates. Early on, I was loaned a set of silver 10-12 gaugemates and was sold on the concept. Without the modification jOe recommends, I needed to remove the silver one and poke the spent hull out. When I ordered my set, I chose the Gold 10-12 and I love there function. Used a set last night in my Francotte 10 bore for skeet. Great fun. Ted, good to see the Bates getting a workout. Randy

RMC