rabbit, he must have raised the price from Saturday on those 9000's. They were $150. Did you get any of those primed 16ga hulls? At $3/hundred and at todays prices the primer is worth that. I should have bought them all and sold them on the 16ga site or kept them until I buy a 16. I'm sure I'll own one some day. The 20ga reloads were a good deal but I did buy 3 boxes factory 12ga Rem Express he had. You are right about Wally. I overheard him tell a boy at a recent show that his lube was so slick that some semi-autos would go full auto with it. That gave me a laugh. His gun wipes are really good though I pick them up ocassionally.