Mark, Last year I shot RST 1 oz #5's but felt, late in the season that a bit more oomph was needed. Ballistic Products just had a great sale, and I bought a bunch of Fiochi "High Velocity" 1 1/8oz 5's & 6's. I patterned them in 3 of my 16's, seem to be ok, and have shot them 6 times at live things. One loong shot at a sharpie, one short shot at a porcupine and 4 of Mrs. Rooneys pigeons. I tried the Golden Pheasants a couple of years ago, and besides the kick, had more than a few FTF's. If memory serves, you did also, in 12 bore a few years back? I am going to use the RST's in the right and the Fiochis in the left, this year. Seeya