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A fellow that you wouldn't sell a gun to ?

I was shooting a round of Sporting Clays with my 10 gauge Premier Grade W.C.Scott the other day. The course goes by the CowbOy action shooters range, there were a few guys getting ready for their next event. One noticed the gun I was carrying and remarked what a beautiful gun it was and that his friend was looking for a ten to shoot Cowboy action with.
I made mention of a another nice lower grade Scott 10 I have that I might consider selling since I had acquired this higher grade gun and was shooting it so well.

The following day I was shooting the course again with a really nice Damascus 12 gauge with blackpowder.
As I walked by the CowbOy range another CowbOy...remarked about her. I made the mistake of letting him hold it and he commenced to drop her open real hard and slam her shut...I almost lost it.
As we left I commented to my buddy that before I would sell a fine gun to a CowbOy Action shooter I'd soon pitch it off the Mississippi river bridge.
L.F.

I know exactly what you mean.

I refused to sell a Golden Retriver to a Doctor once for $15,000. She was the best dog I ever owned or have hunted over and he was the hardest dog owner I have ever seen. Had he bought her she would have been a mess in a month. The Dotcor in question has had more office staff turnover than a temp service and is on his fourth wife. Need I say more. Best non sale I ever made.

Also have refused to sell reloaders and two guns to people whom I felt were not common sense based enough to safely handle them. You made the right choice. Your heart would have dropped in a month when you saw that gun with the barrels hacked off to 20" and shot loose to boot.

"Ignorance is a virtue." -- many, too many, CAS shooters and shotguns.

Tell that bunch to buy a nice Khan shorty hammer gun. Then they can just buy another one when they've 'worn out' [mis-used to death] that 'cheap-axx shotgun."

"Money cannot buy wisdom; just more toys to abuse."

Unfortunately, CAS is undergoing the same 'Murican-style overkill to which any originally fun or useful shooting game seems to devolve. Skeet was once low-gun and a hunter's game. Sporting Clays once had a similar approach. Numerous pistol events were begun for practical purposes.

Such trends appear to be Nature's way of collecting and organizing certain mentalities into tribes and clans , I suppose. Nonetheless, we certainly have been given reports of the abuse to which shotguns fall, under the gentle hands of our own -- heregather'd round the cyber-firepit.

Away from the rarified atmosphere here, it's prolly a good bet that some Unobtainium Rare Big Name SxS has shown up on the CAS circuit in it's new nickel-plated, sawed-off incarnation with all that purty engraving and wood, y'know?

Mebbe the CAS magazines need a couple of articles about how to treat SxS's, and how to have a vague idee of 'whut that gun is' before the hacksaw and ball peen come out the fine tool box.

Distinguishing the difference, couched in plain monetary terms might he'p, but remember that not only is ignorance a virtue -- it must needs be defended at all costs, lest one be thought of as some effette, Edwardian costumed dude.

Which come to think of it, would make an excellent an annoying persona that would have great historical legitimacy for the CAS game. Except HE'D know how to treat his cased pair and would have a loader, or two.

BTW, one of the niftiest CAS shotguns I've seen was one of the Winchester 1901 [?] Leveraction shotguns in 10 ga, 2 7/8". Kinduva a slick rig that would be fun in a duck blind.

Best cowboy action sawed off shotgun I saw was a Linder Daly Diamond Grade 12ga with steel barrels. They saved the cut off piece though! I explained to "Sheep Dip" he had made about a $10,000 modification and hoped he enjoyed it that much.

What I don't understand is where they got the idea cowboys cut off shotguns? All the old western shotguns I have seen were much more likely to be long barreled.

John; always thot of those particular Winnies as scabbard guns to be shot off horseback .. good for most things that get too close. OTOH, I tend to think that doubles with full length bbls are best shot off a mule [four legged variety, if you please].

CAS is kinda your Hoot Gibson/Hop-a-log Cassidy/Roy Rodgers/Matt Dillon for adults, where its clearly a black or white interpretation predicated on what the player sees reflected in the mirror .. of course there is NO sound quite like that of a pump being racked to make the deer and the antelope pause ... not to mention said gun slammer.

Have to wonder if it has its roots in upbringing. Think gunslammers were door slammers at home at an early age? It would not surprise me in the least.

Hey now TW, I resemble that remark! Now them thar eastern city folk are gonna get into some knickers to go shoot doubles an' I don't make any fun, well maybe a little.

I've met a flimflam guy that I wouldn't sell a stick of gum to for fear of him swindling me in some way, that wanted me to be airplane partners with him. I've had someone I couldn't stand to watch handle a horse beg me to sell him my good horse for twice what it was worth. But guns? I've never sold a gun that I cared where it went or who did what to it. But I did have a similar experience with guy that had the brains of a road bisquit, that slam an old double of mine. They come in all walks of life. Keep an eye peeled.

HomelessjOe, Whoooeee, You and I have met a 'couple of ***********holes! I am probably one of the most respectfull(sp)Stockmakers who ever walked on this Hallowed Ground we call'Earth" I have tolerated Clients who have picked Guns from the rack(without asking if they may)Immediately throwing the gun to their shoulder,hearing the safety 'click OFF',More than once hearing the hammers fall, cranking the top lever open,hearing the bbls "DROP"...Then this gun has something wrong with it'!!!It wont close!!!!The Idiot had never had a Beesley actioned Purdey (5 yrs old) in his hands before....Ive always wondered why just because a Person has the ability to purchase a Holland for,sake of discussion, for $85,000.00 that I have to take the abuse from someone wearing a Safari Jacket(Brand New, still had a straight pin sticking out of the back of the collar)But as I didnt have the desire to get into the'Landed entry" V Dirty-handed Gunmaker..discussion,I let the situation drop.He moved on to a 20b Boss db,Orig 7/8oz proof,2.1/2"chambers. after I was told to wrap it up I'll take after you've"Pushed the chambers out to 2.3/4"..I declined to do his request,,,We had very little conversation as I drove him back to his Lear jet that had all the forlock tugging"Yes Mr **********,No Mr**********.Munchkins jumping to his every Whim.I also sent his Cheque for Consultation fee & Fitting back to him.Killed me to do it,but when I thought of the way he 'Slammed the little Boss 20 shut, not once but several times, I thought I heard those Boss gunmakers of 'Yesteryear' cry-outThank you Purdey Boy'! X/C

My home town gun dealer's inspections will knock a guns's value down by 10%.
Its a machine to him, and is he tough on 'em.
I don't do trades with him anymore, I can't stand to watch his abuse.

They watched too many old "B" Westerns that had stagecoach guards with sawed off doubles, or John Wayne and his pair of sawed off Greeners.