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My favorite low pressure recipes call for Remington 209 Premier STS primers. No local component suppliers have had any for several months and have no idea when to expect more from their suppliers. I wanna shoot my damascus guns and am running low on primers---what's up?

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I bought 10,000 STS two months back, they were the only shotgun 209's available at that time......all of them appear to be available here now, but changes week to week and day to day..........but the "hording" continues, especially with powder.....I think the manufacturer's are having a hard time keeping up....I've called a couple of them and they advise the hording is what has created the problems.......all the folks that load --(in fact all the people that shoot)--fear the current administration and up-coming policies.....


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Where are you located? Going to the Vintage Cup? Maybe I can help a fellow Foxist.


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Primers have been in short supply for months on end. Prices way up and they are hard to find which is leading to hoarding. I have seen guys buy more primers than they have used in two or three years.

Do a web search for dealers selling reloading supplies. You will have to pay a hazmat fee to get them shipped to you. Here is a start. Call them I find that they often do not list items in stock on the websites that they in fact do have when you call.

http://www.gamaliel.com
http://www.grafs.com
http://powdervalleyinc.com

Another option is to go to your state Trap shoot and see if any vendors there have any for sale. Good luck and please do not clean them out so the next shooter can buy just a few. Hoarding is silly and making the prices stay far higher than they should be.

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Originally Posted By: mike campbell
Where are you located? Going to the Vintage Cup? Maybe I can help a fellow Foxist.


Thanks for the offer Mike, but being located out here in Northcentral Wisconsin makes the trip to Pintail Point too ambitious of a destination to make this year...good luck in your hunt for one of those cool looking Ansley H. Fox Championship trophies!

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If everyone would just BACK OFF the primer shortage along with all the other shortages fueled by unwaranted fears* would go away and supplies would return to normal. The Obama administration is a LONG way from banning anything and at this point I don't think they have the clout to get ANY firearms related items banned.

*IMO these fears have been fueled by the scumbags making obscene profits from selling "scarce" reloading components primarily at gun shows. I told some of them at last weekends gun show their activities would be remembered long after this cooked up crisis they created was over.
My advice: IF YOU DON'T ABSOLUTELY NEED IT DON'T BUY IT.
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Black Sheep Sporting Goods in Coeur d'Alene had about a dozen sleeves of STS primers last time I was in there. I grabbed one, as I'll certainly use them in the next year and they are my favorite primer. They weren't cheap, but it seems we have to grab our favorite components when we see them.

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Primers have been in short supply for several months here in Ohio, too. A few months ago, my dealer told me he bought the last 200,000 Winchester 209s his supplier had. And he asked me to only buy a few thousand and save the rest for his other customers, which I did. But remember the other 209s work just as well. And the Fiocchi and (I believe) the Noble primers open up your hulls because they are larger than the others. But other than the CCIs, I just interchange primers without too much problem or worries about too much pressure. My loads are so light, I don't even worry about the CCIs any more.

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Not a good idea to just swap primers. Might be OK if you're way light in the pressure department, but if you're running close to the SAAMI pressure standard--more often an issue with the smaller gauges, where it's harder to get pressure down easily like it is on 12's--you can bump pressure a couple thousand psi, no sweat, just with a primer change.


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