doublegunshop.com - home Forums General Discussion DoubleGun BBS @ doublegunshop.com Is a Nimrod action a sidelock?

Talking with a friend today and the question came up. There are 2 pins in the sideplate, does that make it a sidelock? Is a LeFever a boxlock? Just thoughtI would throw it out for comments. Does the complet lock mechinism have to be on the sideplate to make it a sidelock?

Post deleted by Jerry Mouer

Nimrod Waffenr action

This is my attemp at picture posting using the "binko" method.

I would call that a boxlock variation.

What does the little lever behind the mainspring do?

OWD

Just a wild guess while awaiting the answer, but it looks to me to be a part of the sear mechanism.
Can't recall ever seeing another mechanism which used a link between the mainspring & hammer in the "Push mode" before. A link in the pull mode is of course quite common, particularly with bar action sidelocks.
Note, the Lefever is a boxlock, though the earlier ones did carry the sears on the plate, so were a sort of "Hybrid".

The little key hole shaped piece is a tool I believe, It's use was pointed out here a couple months ago. Very ingenius I thought.

Nimrod is a trademark. Nimrod GewehrFabrik or "Nimrod gun / rifle Factory", was the name of Thieme and Schlegelmilchs factory.

It really depends on how you define sidelock, a while back Geno posted about the T&S:

From http://www.hallowellco.com/abbrevia.htm

"Sideplates - Decorative steel plates mounted to the sides of a boxlock break-open gun, inletted into the receiver and into the wood just behind it, to make the gun resemble a sidelock in appearance and to provide a greater area for engraving." Sideplated guns, usually, can be recognized by the lack of action pins visible in the sideplates (although some sideplated guns are built with fake pins)."

Klupp in his book "The Drilling" declares that the Nimrod action was an improvement over the A&D boxlock design.

That is a tool.










Pete

By the strict definition of a sidelock having the mainspring attached to the plate and behing forward of the cock, I would say that the T&S is some hybrid of the A&D which they perfected possibly with the aide of Ernst Funk, son-in-law of F.W. Kessler. I'd like to see the plates removed on this one with the Funk safety: http://www.bobjonesguns.com/details2.asp?id=4492S

Some early Sauer's had the appearance of a sidelock but were also some type of hybrid.

Kind Regards,

Raimey
rse

Thanks PeteM, is that cool or what? Though I would not recommend performing that level of disassembly in the boat. Been there.