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Gary, Here is my Nº51, born in 1950.  Sorry the scroll is not clear enough, as regards to the other features they are the same.  My bet is that yours is much younger than mine, because it has the AYA logo in the top lever.   regars, EJSXS |  |  |  
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Here is Gary's:   And here is another photo of EJSXS's 51 that has been re-stocked:     They do look the same. JC 
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It's most certainly not a #1, #2, #53, #56, or 117.  The #53 has already been posted.  Here my #56 20-bore.  Here is my old #2 12-bore.  The engraving on the #1 is very close to that of my #56... fine Purdey-style rose and scroll. This is from the AYA website. "The stock and engraving are the same quality as the Nº 1, although special attention is paid to the strength of the grain through the grip, because of the extra stresses of competition." Whatever model it is, it looks very nice! Adam
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ejsxs & JayCee: What makes you think that the gun in question is a Model 53 and not a Model 2? I'm not posting this to give anyone a hard time but it seems to be kind of difficult to tell the different Models apart with AYAs just from pictures. For example: My model 117 was mis-catalogued as a Model 2 before I got it. Jim  
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Jim:  I think EJ may have tagged it by the cruciform trigger plate which he associates with his  No. 51 pigeon gun.
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I have to say. It seems amazing that it is not a simple matter to determine, but after seeing photos of these other nice sxs's it is hard to say for sure which one it seems more like. What are you refering to as a "cruciform' trigger plate? Are there different pics I could take to help determine what I have?thanks, Gary
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Jim,
 Mine is a Nº51 because the AYA people said so. According to what I can gather, the Nº51 is an intermediate model between the Nº117 and the Nº53.  It lacks the engraving, goldwashed locks and sideclips of the Nº53, but includes the Purdeys Third Bite, front articulated trigger and rolled trigger guard. It is my understading that the Nº117 lacks the last three features if I remember correctly from a one owned by JayCee.
 
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ejsxs,I don't know what to look for a "Purdey third bite"...can you explain? What about double triggers? Are those model specific?
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I have to say. It seems amazing that it is not a simple matter to determine, but after seeing photos of these other nice sxs's it is hard to say for sure which one it seems more like. What are you refering to as a "cruciform' trigger plate? Are there different pics I could take to help determine what I have?thanks, Gary
Gary: Go to your picture No 3 where you have the gun inverted. Note that the forward part of the triggerguard is cruciform(In the shape of a cross) where it's inletted into the bottom of the receiver. This is an uncommon and expensive option so your gun could very well be a Model 53. The one way to find out for sure is to email AYA with the serial # and ask them. Jim 
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ejsxs,I don't know what to look for a "Purdey third bite"...can you explain? What about double triggers? Are those model specific?
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Gary: Disassemble the gun and take a picture of the lugs on the bottom of the barrels which secure it to the action and we'll be able to tell you if it has a third lug. Jim 
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