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Jack, I'm new at this...are you saying it does not look to be a number 2? How about the engraving? Is that similar? It is a gun from 1955 or 1958, if that matters. Can't remember which gun is which date(i have them in my notes, but they are put up with the guns at the moment)
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Engraving is similar near as I can tell. Arcaded fences the same. Seven pin and detachable locks the same. Aguirre y Aranzabal engraved on lockplates on my 1980s gun; not on yours. Engraving and physical design can change. I'm saying I don't have a good grasp on features which would distinguish 1 from 2 from 117. Think ChiefSG is correct that it's not a model 53. I've never seen one except in fotos but the engraving on a 53 does appear to have some "definition". Engraving on a No.2 looks like kudzu; it's everywhere but not going anywhere, not really taking your eye to a destination
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I'd have to agree. I've always thought it a No2, but when I saw a photo of a 53 the other day, I started wondering what I really had. I have a Victor Sarasqueta of the same era. I got them both from an elderly gentelman in southern Spain when I was stationed there. I honostly didn't know anything about them, I just liked the way they looked and I new I couldn't go wrong with the price. thanks for your input.
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Gary, we'd appreciate it if you'd post some photos of your Victor Sarasqueta 4E. Thanks. Chopperlump
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chopperlump,
I'll break it out tomorrow after work, now that I know how to post, I'll try to take some decent pics.
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I pulled out my Model 117 and can confirm yours is not this model. As near as I can tell from the information and photos I have it's a Model 2. I don't know how much variation there has been in the engraving over the years and I'm basically going by the amount of coverage.
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Gary,
I think it is an AYA Nº51, a pigeon gun (filed flat band, engraving and cruciform trigger plate like mine Nº51). Please check whether it has the Purdey "Third Bite", if it does, sure it is.
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Hello Gary, Here is a 53 for your reference (gold washed innards and all):   JC
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Gary,
You are getting very good advice from many people here. I would also add that it may be a model produced for the domestic market and not be a familiar model here in the US. It looks nicer than a number 2 and is definitely not a number 53.
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Does anyone know why "AYA Jeff" is not posting anymore? He was the absolute expert
on AYAs and had a lot of old catalogues.
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