Mr. Mark Ouellette, please return to my posts. In no form or fashion did I state that you were a newbie. (note: I do not consider the term newbie as a derogatory term ).I stated newbies to sporting SXS events owe it to themselves to learn about classic field guns. I do not apologize to you for this as it was not directed to you. However I do apologize for miss spelling your name. Using my seventy year eyes without my reading glasses on was my error. Sporting clays events were originally designed to replicate experiences "in the field" and not the competition events that now have target presentations that no longer represent "shots" most gentleman hunters would ever consider taking. Hence my reference to the UP SXS Championship, held each year at the Sagola Township Sportsman Club. As to your other comment about listing my state of residence, it is my choice, not yours! R.Wilson