Some AYA 453 and #4 guns have crappy triggers. So do most of the cheaper models I have handled. The #2's seem better. Otherwise, the #4 Hanus gun I sold this year was well balanced, had great triggers redone by Jack Rowe, and was only 6-1/4 pounds (16 ga-28"). The AYA boxlock doesn't look as nice as the 16 bore Sterlingworth I kept! Mike