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Crescent Fake Damascus? #153627 07/07/09 08:37 AM
Joined: Sep 2008 Posts: 51 Louisiana oscarlovel OP Sidelock
OP oscarlovel Sidelock Joined: Sep 2008 Posts: 51 Louisiana	Just won a low bid auction on Gunbroker for a Crescent Empire 60 hammerless sxs. It has a damascus pattern imprinted on the barrels according to the owner. My research shows that Crescent manufactured this model from 1928-1932 or so -- well after Damascus shut down. Owner says they are fluid steel barrels. I have also seen an American Gun Co. SxS with similar appearance barrels that are factory stamped as Genuine Armory Steel. My question is, did Crescent make the Empire 60 with a fake Damascus pattern on the barrels as a factory option? I know they are clunkers, but I still enjoy fooling with them!

Re: Crescent Fake Damascus? oscarlovel #153631 07/07/09 09:47 AM
Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 9,758 Likes: 460 AZ but dreaming of KS Drew Hause Sidelock
Drew Hause Sidelock Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 9,758 Likes: 460 AZ but dreaming of KS	Bro. Oscar: please post ultra close up pics, or send them by jpg attachment to revdoc2@cox.net and I'll put them up and thanks! https://sites.google.com/a/damascusknowledge.com/www/home

Re: Crescent Fake Damascus? oscarlovel #153632 07/07/09 09:58 AM
Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 4,598 IL PeteM Sidelock
PeteM Sidelock Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 4,598 IL	Originally Posted By: oscarlovel ...My research shows that Crescent manufactured this model from 1928-1932 or so -- well after Damascus shut down... Sorry, but Delcour-Dupont was still in large scale production at this time. DELCOUR Jean-baptiste (1862-1931) and his son Oscar (1888-1965) Pete http://www.damascus-barrels.com/Movie.html

Re: Crescent Fake Damascus? PeteM #153633 07/07/09 10:00 AM
Joined: Sep 2008 Posts: 51 Louisiana oscarlovel OP Sidelock
OP oscarlovel Sidelock Joined: Sep 2008 Posts: 51 Louisiana	So Pete, Do you think it is possible that the barrels are actually Damascus?

Re: Crescent Fake Damascus? oscarlovel #153635 07/07/09 10:07 AM
Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 4,598 IL PeteM Sidelock
PeteM Sidelock Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 4,598 IL	Need to see the pictures to be sure... Pete http://www.damascus-barrels.com/Movie.html

Re: Crescent Fake Damascus? PeteM #153636 07/07/09 10:09 AM
Joined: Dec 2001 Posts: 3,733 Likes: 211 Alaska Mike Harrell Sidelock
Mike Harrell Sidelock Joined: Dec 2001 Posts: 3,733 Likes: 211 Alaska	Oscar many sellers, either knowingly or not say that a damascus barreled gun is fake damascus to sell it.

Re: Crescent Fake Damascus? Drew Hause #153638 07/07/09 10:20 AM
Joined: Sep 2008 Posts: 51 Louisiana oscarlovel OP Sidelock
OP oscarlovel Sidelock Joined: Sep 2008 Posts: 51 Louisiana	American Gun Company "Genuine Armory Steel" I don't have the Crescent in hand yet. It is here on Gunbroker: Gunbroker Crescent Empire 60 Does anyone know if Crescent even offered the Empire 60 in Damascus barrels?

Re: Crescent Fake Damascus? oscarlovel #153639 07/07/09 10:28 AM
Joined: Sep 2008 Posts: 51 Louisiana oscarlovel OP Sidelock
OP oscarlovel Sidelock Joined: Sep 2008 Posts: 51 Louisiana	I just called the seller and he said that the barrels are "definitely not Damascus". When I asked if they were stamped as fluid steel, he said "no". This is after having asked about the Damascus issue prior to bidding. I honestly cannot tell by the pictures on the GB site. My reference texts make no mention of Damascus barrels being available on the Empire 60.

Re: Crescent Fake Damascus? oscarlovel #153640 07/07/09 10:29 AM
Joined: Dec 2001 Posts: 3,733 Likes: 211 Alaska Mike Harrell Sidelock
Mike Harrell Sidelock Joined: Dec 2001 Posts: 3,733 Likes: 211 Alaska	From what I can see in the photo they look like blued steel that has a lot of wear to me.

Re: Crescent Fake Damascus? Mike Harrell #153698 07/07/09 08:48 PM
Joined: Jan 2002 Posts: 5,983 Utah Jim Legg Sidelock
Jim Legg Sidelock Joined: Jan 2002 Posts: 5,983 Utah	Like Mike, the pictures don't look like Damascus at all,to me. Not real or fake. The description callem them a "damascene pattern" suggest the seller doesn't have a clue. > Jim Legg <

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