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Somehow I have to remember that the tab key seems to finish my replies. I am enjoying the thoughts on the subject and am hearten to see that my described problem is not mine alone. I would like to say I don't cowboy any of my guns and safety is always the foremost in my mind. While 75% of my hunting is in remote places with my GSPs as my only campanions I would never consider walking with a closed cocked hammer gun. Okay off a point I do with my Win 1901. I would have the same concerns as some expressed about dropping shells and a more fragil state walking with the gun open and cocked. I have a safe full of other shotguns (sin exposed hammers with safeties) so if I chose to not "Handicap" myself I can. But hunting for me is much more about my dogs, being outdoors, and harkening back on my grandfathers era than bagging birds these days. I hunt with a lot of different leverguns and am very used to cocking a single hammer. I was weaned on single shot hammer guns. As many suggest birds are a lot closer than they seem. I will probably train myself to either cock just one hammer as I mount, or cock both and then mount. I have until recently bird hunted almost exclusively with modern SxS, OUs, and semis. They are truly extensions of my body with no thought necessary. It is somewhat refreshing having to be truly cognizant of my more manual actions of pumping, levering, and cocking. Pulling the trigger with nothing happening as the bird flies away is a reminder I need to practice more.
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With something like a 12ga in particular, you'd probably need a hand like a gorilla. No, make that an NBA center, since a gorilla doesn't have an opposable thumb. You were correct the first time. Not only do gorillas have opposable thumbs, but also opposable big toes, too.
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It doesn't take a rOcket scientist to figure out it's not safe to open or close a loaded hammer gun with the hammers cocked  and it's sure not safe to walk around with it cocked. I can see why the hammer gun fell from grace.
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It doesn't take a rOcket scientist to figure out it's not safe to open or close a loaded hammer gun with the hammers cocked and it's sure not safe to walk around with it cocked. Why is it not safe to open or close a loaded hammer gun? I'm a stupid construction worker, not a scientist.
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You left out the part about "with the hammers cocked".
Try an imagine you got your hammer gun loaded it's cocked and open....as you go to close it your finger gets on one of the triggers.
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You left out the part about "with the hammers cocked".
Try an imagine you got your hammer gun loaded it's cocked and open....as you go to close it your finger gets on one of the triggers. Imagine this if you will. Your grouse hunting with your favorite hammerless SxS. You go to slip the safety off, and your finger touches the trigger.
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you got to cock the hammers with thy thumb and use fingers to pull out the empties. cute sorta like starting a car by cranking piece of iron in front of the vehicle. not sure about ya but i kinda like ac and heat inside of my car.
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Muzzle control is the only real safety...Geo
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Walking around with the gun cocked and broke means two things: you're going to 'sweep' the dogs when you close the gun (or drop the shells out if you hold the barrels up); and you're just asking for an accidental discharge when you trip and fall and the barrels come back 'in battery' as you do. At least when you cock the gun at a point, you can point it in a safe direction. If the dogs point and you have to negotiate a briar patch, don't cock it till you see you have safe footing...Geo Exactly
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