Chuck.....Now thats 'Gunmaking'My aprons off to you....Abe Chaber and I have talked,for years about "If we Could have had a 'Real GunTrade' Training Program! I had one In Indiana for 6yrs. Thru the Veterans Admin. All Combat Veterans, Amputees, Home-Bounds, All with the desire to 'fiddle &furk with firearms.One of the most Fullfilling Experiences of my life!I'm still in contact with the Vietnam Veterans who graduated from Trevs Gunsmithing Program after 26yrs...dt