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I recently purchased one of the used 1940's Husqvarana SxS's recently imported, a Model 610. I notice the design and even screw location is very similar to the german Sauer's.

Is one a copy of the other? Was there some business relationship between these two companies? Or is this just coincidence?

Jerry

Husqvarna souced components from Sauer and finished them. I don't recall the Model number for the doubles but there was a block in the 116k, 123k & 132k range for the drillings.

Kind Regards,

Raimey
rse

Jerry there ws a pretty good article on the Swedish Sauers in the Double Gun Journal a few years back - Summer 2007 ?

There are at least some Husqvarna top-lever hammer doubles that have receivers identical in appearances to Sauer receivers, save for finishing and decorations. It has been my understanding that Husqvarna sourced both top-lever receivers and back-action sidelocks from Sauer. For how many models, I do not know, although Husqvarna M52 is one and M48 may be another. I do not have copies of both Husqvarna-finished and Sauer-finished hammer doubles -- that appear to be nearly identical, so, cannot check dimensions of these parts.

Niklas

Is there a story behind the 1940's Husqvarna's? I noticed Cabela's has a bunch of them in thier Hammond Indiana store. Swastikas were embossed on the barrels of a couple guns.

The Swastikas have to do with the type of steel in the barrels.

I'll admit that I've only scratched the surface on info on Swedish steel but the following sites might yield some insight:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_use_of_the_Swastika_in_the_early_20th_century#Sweden

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ASEA

By the way it looks like the English are to blame for the use or coining the ole Swastika.

Kind Regards,

Raimey
rse

I have a 1943 and a 1947 M51. Neither has any swastika's or other any none Swedish markings. I will say that the barrels would not interchange. The receiver of the '43 was definitely smaller than the '47 gun. I do not have both here presently, so I can not measure them.

Pete

I realize that the models are earlier than the models for which the question was posed but the proof info is interesting:

"When a barrel bursts, or the gun, for some other reason is damaged during shooting, the gun manufacturer, in most cases, gets the blame with the argument that the reason for the damage is use of bad quality materials, or manufacturing flaw. That such faults should exist on guns delivered from us, we consider that we have prevented, partly by using only best quality materials, and partly, and above all, by the most accurate inspections, and rigourious tests. I.e. the barrels on guns delivered from us have passed two firing tests. The first test, made when the barrel has been pretreated, is carried out with trippled black powder charge, and fivefold shot load. The second test, made when the gun is ready for delivery, is carried out with double powder charge and double shot load. If the barrels and the action has passed there tests, without in any way having been altered, they will not be damaged when using normal powder charges and shot loads, independent of the charge being black powder or suitable low smoke powder. Additionally, from each new set of barrel raw material, samples for test firing are taken. This test firing takes place in such a way that the barrel, drilled to cal. 16, and the outer diameter turned to a diameter that correspond to that of a typical 16 cal. gun, is charged with 14,25 grams of black powder and, initially, at the first shot, loaded vith 85 grams of shots. The shot load i increased in such a way that, at the 24th firing, the shot load i 456 grams. For the 25th firing, the charge is increased to 19 grams. Firing continues, for each three firings, the charge is increased, for each firing the shot load is increased, until the barrel bursts. Generally, our barrels, made of swedish steel, will hold a charge of 14.25 grams of powder, and a shot load of 400 grams. Barrels made of special steel will hold a charge of 23,75 grams of powder and 860 grams of shot load."

from here: http://home.wanadoo.nl/~fdwjr/Law/Law.htm as well as some production data: http://www.weiss-trading.com/hva/hvae.htm .

I think the Model 49 has an interesting pattern from the same site: http://www.weiss-trading.com/hva/SGM49/M49-4.jpg .

As a side note the Swedes "imported" some Walloons from the South of Belgian in the 17th century which jump started their iron and steel technology.

Kind Regards,

Raimey
rse

My older Husqvarna top lever hammer doubles (1890 to 1922) have very minimal marking on either barrels or receiver -- nothing like the clutter of stampings one sees on German doubles, or even the later Husqvarnas. A model #, serial production # and assembler's initials are often all there is.

My emerging understanding of Husqvarna hammer doubles is that precise dimensions of receivers depended on supplier (or production run?), with barrels, locks and stocks fitted as needed. I seldom hear of someone being able to easily fit one set of barrels to receiver from another gun of same model -- and this has been my personal experience as well.

Niklas