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Extractor / Ejector Conundrum

When I take my BSS to shoot some clays I like the strong ejectors that sling the empties with such force that I can be sure that there are no busy bodies standing behind me. But in the field, being the good citizen that I am, no matter how far they fly I always pick them up. So ....... what I want is a shotgun that when opened partially .... just enough to clear the shell ... it extracts ...... and when open full ..... out they fly. Is is a new idea ..... or have I just had too much Old Overholt

Al

Old Overholt is an excellent lubricant older for creaky bones and muscles so I don't think you can drink too much. In one sitting yes but over time this is doubtful.
I've always just put my hand over the breech of an ejector gun and trapped the empties before they could fly out. I did this at trap and skeet for years without any problems.
Low tech but it works.
Jim

Bouvier, I have a Browning Citori trap gun,O/U.
It operates as you describe.When opened slowly it acts as an extractor gun,when opened quickly it ejects the shells.I've been told a Citori shouldn't do that,but it does. I don't think I'll try to fix it.
Dave

Virtually all good ejector guns (exceptions being some cheap poorly designed one) have primary extraction to lift the hulls breaking them loose from the chambers for better ejection. What you are asking for is a gun with ejector timing such than you can stop the opening with the hulls clear of the standing breech, but the ejectors not yet tripped. Note that depending upon timing of the sears this may result in un-cocked hammers as well. In opening a double it is generally desirable to open it against the bbl check. There are much better solutions to the stated problem you mention than your suggestion, including ItalianSxS's suggestion.

Every time I see this question, the skeeters come forward with the nonchalant comment that the manual dexterity approach solves the problem. Guess what! I can catch both of them three inches out of the chambers with a heavy o/u of the Browning Citori/Superposed persuasion. I was never able to do so with the AyA Numba 2; cocking force there that puts the "break" in break open action. Unless I put the barrels in the air and butt in armpit or inside of thigh as a third hand, there was no way I'd ever get it to start to open without my hand around the grip. I disabled the ejectors on that one. I don't believe all guns are created equal in the force to open and cock dept. Isn't that the rationale for "self-openers" and guns that cock a few bits and pieces opening and the remainder closing?

jack

There's a hole in the forend iron on BSSs. If you put a pin through this hole, made of music wire or a small drill bit, the ejectors will not fire. No need to remove anything. Another thoughtful solution I've read is to replace the ejector springs with much weaker springs, that will lift the shells out far enough to grab them easily but not throw them out of the gun. On some guns, simply disabling the ejector firing mechanism results in the shells being lifted so little, out of the chambers, grasping them may be difficult.