Boy oh Boy am I glad the buddy at GM who bought my older "pawn shop" AH Fox HE 12 gauge didn't care if it was a Ansley H. Fox or a AH Fox or a A.H. Fox-I "lucked out"- bought it about 13 years ago from a pawn shop in Detroit for $600.00- the "Barrels Not Guaranteed" stamp helped me drive down the price, plus some of the numbers had been obliterated- perhaps a "hot gun". Sold it for just a tad more than I paid for it to someone whose life was not complete w/o an overbored 12 with 32" barrels that weighs about the same as a M-1 Garand (unloaded, no bayonet affixed)--what a cannon. A retired Judge that I hunt with has a AE grade 12 with 29 and 1/2" (exactly) Krupp barrels- no sign of being cut either- patterns beautifully too-7 and 1/2 lbs. though, a tad heavy for an all day pheasant hunt for us AARP types- I favor L.C. Smiths- same name and initials from the Syracuse to Fulton and Hunter brothers aegis- Then Simmonds and Gilles, later Marlin- then Bust-O-La. Saw a "modern" L.C. Smith 20 at Cabela's recently- false sideplates, made in Turkey I guess-lotta $ for the name, but it's as much a real sidelock "Elsie" as the Pope is the Easter Bunny- RWTF