Didn't Dave create a Forum just for this kind of discussion? Pete M is not PMag or Pete Magus or any of the other trolls, he's one of the most knowledgable posters on this or any other board. I hope he stays above the fray and dosen't reply to the personal insults you're throwing his way. I'd ask Dave to move this to the Misfires forum and leave this board for the discussion of shotguns.

Cary