Michael and all, At first glance I notice the chord line in the checkering (Alvin Linden) but you would see that on the bottom of the grip not the top. So its not him. There are other reasons it not Linden also. Then at least to my eyes it's easy(no offense to others here) to rule out the others mentioned here. Then I narrowed it to two makers and as you know one of the guesses is correct. What hasn't been said is why this exercise is valuable, at least from my own perspective. I have been fortunate to have you as a mentor in recognizing these makers. These skill will help you make decisions on new aquisitions quickly. I have let some very nice "unmarked" rifles slip from my grasp while I studied them. So I am keen on developing these skills. We should try to do this as much as subject material comes forward. Thanks to all, gary duffey