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If two were side by side, equal except for one being a pigeon model and other being a game model, I would pay more to get the pigeon model and would feel very lucky if I didn't have to.

With Side by Side becoming more prevalent at major Sporting Clay shoots, not counting the major SxS only shoots, I agree with those that the demand for them would have to push the price up.

Fifty years ago everyone in the South hunted wild birds with 12 & 16 ga SxS's primarily. Now we hunt pen raised birds with 410's.

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Sorry Joe, can't hear you.

DLH

I have always found a 2 to 1 market in favor of pigeon guns over lighter models, especially with the big three; Boss Purdey and H&H. Boswells were also highly favored. Serious shooting demands serious guns. I've always understood that the ultimate best gun by any maker was their pigeon gun.

The cream of the crop were always gameguns - these were the bread and butter of the trade. Pigeon guns were for the card sharks and back alley types...not so with the circle that were invited to shoot game.
...and besides, anyone with a cumbersome gun, thinks it's a pigeon gun!

Seems to me anyone could build a heavy gun, now a well balanced, light gun takes some skill.

Tell us about your Kimber .22 Lowell...

I wish this pigeon would stop replying to me.

now that's funny!!

Lowell Glenthorne Lowell Glenthorne
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Loc: Glenthorne Woods The cream of the crop were always gameguns - these were the bread and butter of the trade. Pigeon guns were for the card sharks and back alley types...not so with the circle that were invited to shoot game.
...and besides, anyone with a cumbersome gun, thinks it's a pigeon gun!

Where does this come from? Are you channeling 19th century gunmakers? Last guy who channeled people (in court, no less)was wannabe VP John Edwards...a worthy role model, indeed.

Actually Lowell- there are Pigeon Guns, and as we don't have a legal dove season here (and Hell freezes over when we ever do) all my 12 gauge shotguns are, in a way, Pigeon Guns. Ain't no better legal year around target than the "Airborne *&^%wagons" and I have many area dairy farms that give me year around practice on them.

I recently bought a 12 gauge LC Smith (my first) that was a Live Pigeon gun- 32" ventilated rib, DT, ejectors, non-auto safety, 8 lbs. 2 oz. Hawkins pad- perfect stock dims for me- patterns like gangbusters with just about any load- love some older Federal premium coppered No. 8's I found, also my AA reloads- I can't say if it is any better made or finished off than a Field Grade Smith 12 with 32" barrels-But it is a "keeper" and I use most all of my 12 gauge shotguns for barn pigeons, crows, blackbirds and other feral avaian targets.

As I love pre-1964 Winchesters like Popeye's pal Wimpy loved hamburgers, my Pigeon Grade M12 Trap gun is "finished up" just a bit better than the 5 other field grade Model 12's in my working arsenal- BUT- the fancier wood, engine turning, old milled rib and other items that make it a fine gun for clays-- but the fine choke, barrel, trigger pull and reliable cycling-you got that also with a field grade Model 12-

As far as back alley hustlers- both my late Grand Father and the man who started me as a serious waterfowler in my youth were also big purse shooters in the 1920's-and won some hefty $ back when a $1000 bill (A Texas calling card) was some real money- there still are some box bird clubs in the USA and columbaire in the Spanish speaking countries-and I'd gladly take one of the late Rudy Etchen's Purdey or Perrazi live bird guns, and assuming it fit me, take it South America for doves and be one happy guy. I just wouldn't want to burn 1000 shells a day-no matter what escopeta I was using.

But unlike others here, I get a royal charge out of your postings. I think you are like the "Court Jester" of the Double Gun Journal Shoppe BBS (emphasis on the last two initials), or perhaps even like the Plumbing contractor Dave Weber paid to raise the urinals in the Men's Room up 10 inches on the wall- To "Keep Us On Our Toes"-!!