Will S...I e-mailed you an answer to your post. But in case you don't get it; I include that e-mail here:

Read with interest your post on the Doublegun Forum.......A few thoughts in rebuttal:
"name calling and aspersions cast toward the "Left" " This is because the 'Left' start each debate, from an indefensible (and contemptible) position. And I'll cite a few examples before you arise in protest.......
The Left would close Club Gitmo, thus providing succor and hope to terrorists whom should be killed. Yet the Left will fight tenaciously for the right to kill unborn babies....... The Left will rabidly defend their 1st Amendment rights; but gleefully trash my 2nd Amendment rights.....The Left will work to put me in jail should I get caught defending my home and family against a criminal; but will let the criminal go free........ the Left will vow to bring our troops home from Iraq, but will send 17,000 new troops to Afghanistan.......the Left would ban prayer in schools...... The Left would perpetuate the fallacy of manmade global warming.......The Left would admonish me for not sharing my hard-earned money with freeloaders who decline to work for theirs.
The Left would promise us "no earmarks"; then ram through bills with billions of dollars of earmarks......
The Left would try to blame George Bush for our economic woes; when in reality, the money market, and real estate policies of the Left during the Clinton years are wholly responsible.........Matter-of-fact it is impossible to discuss hardly any subject with a Liberal, without "casting aspersions"!
"It's nice to have a president who can speak in complete sentences."
Adolph Hitler was one of the most articulate, and riveting speakers in the history of mankind.........and you know how that turned out. Franklin Delano Roosevelt was a magnificent speaker, but it took us decades to recover from his policies.
"If you listened to him on tuesday, what more do you need to know"?
I need to know how my descendants are going to pay for all of the obscene spending proposals......
"Sensible gun control"
All depends on your point of view........I think double-barreled shotguns are ugly, and are not very sensible for home protection. While I think 'black rifles' are beautiful, and superb tools for home protection.
"Why would any of you have voted for two terms of George Bush?"
The reasons are manifest........... No more 911s....Booming economy.......Low unemployment.....Decency returned to government......Christian values adhered to......2nd Amendment Rights reestablished, (Assault Weapons Ban allowed to sunset). Refusal to allow subservience to a world government.....Decline to "set down" with terrorists.......Crammed even more terrorists into Club Gitmo.....Spanked The United Nations; perhaps the most corrupt, useless, clusterf**k in the known universe......
A lot more, but am getting short of breath.......
"The mindlessness of......."
The mindlessness of Obama supporters is breath-taking.......
I seemed to detect a note of anger in your post to the forum........ I would answer that anger with a favorite quote of mine......"If you want to anger a conservative, lie to him....If you want to anger a Liberal, tell him the truth".
And I would close with a bit of advice.........In the future; embark upon the battlefield of political wit with considerable trepidation..........as you seem virtually unarmed.........
I key rather slow; and hunched over my keyboard for over an hour to pen this e-mail........I'm lots more articulate, and intelligent, and more difficult to debate on the phone.........Should you desire to really be put in your place; call me........My cell: 507-273-9867 Thanks for listening, Grant Marquardt Elgin, MN.