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Anyone know what the working pressure is of the Hornandy 450-400 and the 405 WIN??
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Brian, I did a pretty thourough search in Hornady's ballistics charts. They give velocity, energy, trajectory, but no pressure data whatsoever. Stay safe!
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Brian,
Better to post this question on the accuratereloading.com double rifle forum.
Reckon it's hard to give Hornady a call from your aor... Can't imagine that the Hornady pressure is more than what the old British rules list at 16 tons/sq.in.
I've seen two pressures listed for the .405 Winchester, one at 44,000 CUP; the other this from Chuckhawks: "Current SAAMI specs call for a maximum mean pressure of 34,000 psi for the .405 Winchester."
Bottom line would likely be (subject to accurate conversion of tons/sq. in.) that the 450/400 3-inch gives more pressure than the .405 Win maximum...
Regards, Tim
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Brian:
CIP Max Average Pressure for the .450/.400 3" NE is 2800 BAR/40,610 PSI. My understanding is that Hornady's factory ammunition operates at 5 - 7% below that.
I don't know what to tell you about SAAMI standard for the .405 Win. Too much conflicting data. Hornady says their factory ammunition runs around 40,500 PSI.
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Brian, Not sure I'd want to rechamber a .405 win to 450/400 3 in. if that's the direction you're going... I've seen various different bore measurements for both calibers. 400 Nitro would likely have a more soundly-based view on this question, and will likely chime in if asked, as opposed to my just speaking up  . Regards, Tim
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I've seen various different bore measurements for both calibers. Standard groove diameter for the .450/.400 has been .410" since 1913, and is CIP's standard today. CIP's standard groove diameter for the .405 is .413".
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The original 405 Winchester was .411".
MP Sadly Deceased as of 2/17/2014
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Thanks. Just looking for info . Possible project when I get back!
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