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Don't know about the G&H, but when Jeff's was out of some of my favorite pads, I ordered substitutes from Galazan. Turned out to be the same pad from the same manufacturer. My guess is they all get them from the same suppliers.

The old London Guns pad is the right color, if you can find one.

I have an original I purchased 40 years ago and never found a Parker to put it on. Let me know if I can help

bill

Mike

I lost your address. Could you please resend it to gdisharoon@allianzmadvac.com

Regards, Gordon

There are 3 colours of Silvers, red, black and orange. I have recently ordered orange pad from Kynoch and it is the true old english orange. The only problem though is these pads are blooming heavy and also very hard. It is therefore easy to ruin the balance of a gun with one.

Personally I quite like the appearance of the Pachmayer Old English range of pads - these are softer, weigh 50% less and are also cheaper.

The Griffin and Howe repro Silver screws are drilled at 3 5/16" apart. I have used a round file to bring them closer together for a gun that originally had a Hawkins pad on it. As I recall, the Hawkins is 3 1/8" screw spacing. There is plenty of room to adjust the screw spacing in the G&H pad. When you enlarge the holes lengthwise, use washers in the plug holes when installing the pad to keep it flat on the wood.

Jonty, thanks, that's reassuring about the newer Silver's pads. I had given some thought to the Old English pad. Are they as sticky as the regular Decelerator pads?

The gun balance is an important consideration to me. I'll be comparing weights to the existing pad once the new one is ground to size. Perhaps strategically removing some rubber through the back side is an option there.

eightbore, thanks for the info. My current white line Pachmayr pad has holes 3" apart. I found one reference to the holes on the old Silver's pads being 3" apart as well.

Here's the pad I'm planning to replace:

Looks like an older Red Winchester vented pad from Pachmayr- I have several of these, an Ithaca red Sunburst, a Pachmayr tan vented Browning, and a few misc- all original "take offs" not the new "reproductions" plus a few misc older non-logoed black Bakelite buttplates--

Hi Mike,

the Old English pads are fine (I think their Pachmayer code is the 752 pad)the decelerator pads are too sticky for me though.

As they are significantly lighter than Silvers they have worked well for me on guns that don't have enough wood left in the stock to hollow out to put the balance of the gun right.

I always weigh the gun first and make an exact note of where the balance point is before making any alterations. I have found that the silvers weigh a lot more due to the denser rubber and solid construction.

On average I have found that a Pachmayer Old English Pad weighs around 4 to 5 oz, and it is usually possible to offset this weight by hollowing out a stock with a 1" auger bit to get the balance back.

I have also found a MAD drill bit very useful as it cuts sideways / up and down as well as in depth. This is useful if you want a small hole into the rear butt of the stock to retain the pad mounting screws and then you can hollow out inside the stock - like a large cave inside, but with a small entrance. BUT you do have to be very careful, go slowly and I use calipers to make sure I maintain wall thickness.

Before anybody asks what a MAD bit is here you go! - a video I found :-

http://www.ostartools.com/products/forwood/forstnerbits/madbits.htm

I hadn't realized, until following up on your post, that Pachmayr has two Old English pads. The one you refer to, the 752B, and the Decelerator version D752B. I had only encountered the latter before and likewise find them too sticky for my taste.

That MAD bit looks like a great tool, and scary.