i had one in 16 gauge and it was an outstanding gun. better finished internally and externally than anything in the price range ($200) you can get, apparently good materials, balanced very well, weighed a little over 7# if i remember right (and if you can't handle a 7-7.5# shotgun you need to get some exercise). functioned fine, good trigger pulls, fit well, better quality than any of the 311 class guns and far lighter than a savage/fox. the only negative at all to this gun was the chokes which were full+ and evenfuller.

and the 16 i had was apparently not built on a 12 gauge frame. it was just the right size for a 16. i'd buy another one in a blink.

roger