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Somewhere there is a H.M. Pope barreled single square bridge Magnum Mauser in the sharp shoulder .300 Hoffman Magnum that was purloined from a gunsmith friend's house in a divorce quarrel, his sons sided with their mother and when Dad was out of the house sold all the rifles in the place including some of mine. The rifle had two interchangeable Noskes, 2.5 and 4x, in a G&H mount that I had fitted by G&H to the same receiver holes as the original clumsy Niedner mount - today I would not consider such heresy. The rear square bridge is slotted for a peep sight that I think is still in my sight box. A serial number, as best I recall on the bolt, is 3662. The sons told me that after they realized some of the stuff was mine they tried to get the rifles back but that they had all burnt up in a fire - a likely tale. There was also (1) a cased H&H rebounding hammer toplever .500 black powder double; (2) a 7x57 pre-64 Featherweight Super Grade that Winchester had put together for me - you can imagine what this would be worth today, and it was a very nice rifle to boot; (3) a DeLuxe H&H fully engraved Magnum Mauser .300 Super Rimless (.300 H&H) ser. nos. 2465 and/or 13776; and (4) a cased Westley Richards double percussion rifle 31 bore ser. no. 8751. The boys missed one gun, a Holland & Holland 6.5x55 Norwegian Krag, and I still have it. In the twenty odd years since this disaster, I have not seen one of these guns show up anywhere.
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Above in the Pope Springfield photos is one with a Howe Whelen sight, schnable fore end, Seymour Griffin stock. The barrel is Pope #603, 12/20/22, 14 twist. About a year later than Michael's Pope/King rifle.
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Mark, You would think after all these years that one of them would have shown up. Last year a highly engraved G&H was stolen at a gunshow and a James V. Howe rifle was stolen in the mail. I keep track of many of these but to date nothing.
Does anyone know of other sporting rifles with a Pope barrel either single-shot or a a bolt gun?
Any more questions or observations on the King-Pope? Any questions I still to answer?
MP Sadly Deceased as of 2/17/2014
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Here is one that I have in my picture collection. I don't know for sure where the picture came from but it says Stevens - Pope under it. Do I have it mis-identified as it looks strangely like one above? 
The remodelled Springfield is the best and most suitable all 'round rifle. - Seymour Griffin
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That's Terry's rifle, This would be a Jersey City rifle and will be marked "H.M. Pope" much too late for a Stevens-Pope.
"Above in the Pope Springfield photos is one with a Howe Whelen sight, schnable fore end, Seymour Griffin stock. The barrel is Pope #603, 12/20/22, 14 twist. About a year later than Michael's Pope/King rifle."
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Michael,regarding a finish for your aluminum buttplate, you might consider powder coating . It can look like an anodyzed finish, but it's easier to have done. I had a set of old bronze scope rings done this way. They look great.
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Bill, Thanks for the tip, I'll check around town. There is no one doing anodizing and I don't know about powder coating but I'll look into it.
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I need your help , I see in this web a forum for antique shotguns from italy the artist is Mario Fabbrizioli and figli rimini I have a shotguns 20 gauge froms this hand made I need for more informations please may mane is marcello avatte from chile I wanted more guns from fabbriziolli my msil id marcelloavatte@hotmail.com and my facebook is marcello avatte
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Michael, powder coating is the cat's meow of painting, aside from the 2-part epoxy paints. It's not as hard as epoxy but a good shop can achieve wonderfully smooth results and I wouldn't be surprised if this process couldn't also be used with the epoxies as well. I realize that painting is considered to be beyond the pale so to speak, but the epoxies and powder coating have raised the bar considerably in recent years. IMO you could do worse. Regards, Joe
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That's Terry's rifle, This would be a Jersey City rifle and will be marked "H.M. Pope" much too late for a Stevens-Pope.
"Above in the Pope Springfield photos is one with a Howe Whelen sight, schnable fore end, Seymour Griffin stock. The barrel is Pope #603, 12/20/22, 14 twist. About a year later than Michael's Pope/King rifle." Thanks Michael I will make the corrections in my file.
The remodelled Springfield is the best and most suitable all 'round rifle. - Seymour Griffin
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