I have an 8x58.5R which is marked 2gr GBP / StMG. 2 grams (app 31 grains) flake powder with a steel jacketed bullet. I doubt seriously this round would have been proofed for 38 grains. The 8x72R may be a viable alternate, don't have knowledge as to their loading.


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