Guys, I have never once said my formula is the price of the gun. I say it is a startiing point to ponder. It will get you into the ball park if the gun is what it looks like or is as described. A skilled photographer can make a gun look better than it is, a skilled wordsmith can make a gun sound better than it is, and dimlights/wax/oil/an uncleaned arrel/ etc. can cover up gun flaws. At least I'm willing to try to get you into the ball park.