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Le Fusil
Don't be so quick to demote the very best work of the very best stockers to being no more than 'warm and fuzzies'.
The UK is full of time-served professional stockers and I still select the man I consider right for each job - a complicted job like bar-in wood Purdey hammer gun for example I would send to only one or two people.
Not because nobody else could do the job but because doing it, doing it well and doing it exactly right are different things.
The layman often cannot see the difference but that is why they use soemone who can to do the work or get the work done. the trade is full of guns with re-stocks that look good if you don't know what it should be like and which then need passing off to the unsuspecting or re-working.
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I agree....It would be kinda hard to dump that kind of money in a Darne.
Ah jOe, spoken like the true mountain clown you are.  Even though you're way beyond irrelevant, I still love you...no teeth and all. SB, I see where your coming from, but don't presume for a minute that I or other "layman" dont know what good/fantastic/best stockwork looks like. I know what it looks like just as well as you do. I see no difference in the quality of Paul Hodgins work when compared to work by either Doug Mann or Dennis E. Smith and others.....just a HUGE price difference. And that is fine...its all about what a person is willing to pay, and if Paul has clients that want their Purdey or Holland stocked by him and they can pay him, thats their choice and thats great, I'm just saying there are other less costly options out there without sacrificing the overrall quality of the work. Now, I'm sure that will ruffle the feathers of some, but thats the way I see it. Dustin
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LeFusil I agree there are people out there that can't see the difference...
Example just look at all the posts that show up on here where people see a SXS and think they have found the Crown Jewel.
Darn it....Some even see beauty in a Darne.
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LeFusil-
That's about what it costs to have it done right.
It's that simple.
You can pay less, but I can almost guarantee you that it will not be done right. And the differences are real, very real.
From what I've seen, Americans do great work. But for the most part, best-grade English sidelocks are not their thing.
BTW: I'm going to pass on the Scott. The price is $9gs.
If anyone is interested, drop me an email and I'll put you in touch with the seller.
If anyone wants the gun fully inspected, assessed, and measured, I can arrange to have it done for you.
OWD
hfn_03570@yahoo.com
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LeFusil-
That's about what it costs to have it done right.
It's that simple.
You can pay less, but I can almost guarantee you that it will not be done right. And the differences are real, very real.
From what I've seen, Americans do great work. But for the most part, best-grade English sidelocks are not their thing.
BTW: I'm going to pass on the Scott. The price is $9gs.
If anyone is interested, drop me an email and I'll put you in touch with the seller.
If anyone wants the gun fully inspected, assessed, and measured, I can arrange to have it done for you.
OWD
hfn_03570@yahoo.com
OWD, thats your opinion and my opinion of your opinion is.....that your opinion is boloney.  I write in jest of course.  If thats what you think it takes for a "best grade english sidelock" to be stocked "properly" then you pays the stocker to get the "warm fuzzies" and be happy. I would like to know what the subtle but real, "very real", differences are when it comes to stocking a best grade English sidelock, c'mon now, we arent re-inventing the wheel here, a best grade english sidelock is not a mythical beast with secrects locked away, your being too romantic about this.... or you've been bushwacked by a slick talking salesman somewhere along the road. Have you talked to an American stockmaker, have they ever told you that best grade english sidelocks are "not their thing"?? I've never heard that, and I've seen best grade english sidelocks stocked by some of the best in America that would make any "gun guy" weep. 9g's for that Scott huh? Wow. Its a nice gun, but that stock is just ridiculous.
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LeFusil-
OK, whatever. We'll agree to disagree.
There's a real difference and it's worth the money. End of story.
And I guarantee you I know what I'm talking about - absolutely, 110%.
Remember, I'm "obsessed" with doubles, not "kind of interested" in them.
Hahaha
Take care.
OWD
BTW: the opinions of any guy into Darnes and American Water Spaniels are seriously suspect, anyway.
Just kidding.
Kind of.
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I like bologna.
But 9g's is steep with black powder proofs and probably short chambers....fellow could buy a few pounds of rag bologna and several Darnes in jest for 9g's.
Trap stock or maybe a live bird gun. It looks good but I'm betting it's had more than it share of rounds shot through it.
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Post a few pics, Dustin. You have more experience having guns restocked than anyone here, I imagine.
Quality work, be it on a sidelock, a boxter 12 cylinder, or a Pratt and Witney jet engine, is where you find it.
Best,
Ted
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Ted I bet you could show us some mOss'berg pumps you've had restocked.
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