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What is the legend on the brls or the rib?

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jOe,

Yeah that's G&H's gun. Give them a few months and they will mark it down a trifle!! I suspect your correct. It will be there many moons. The only problem I would have with OWD's gun if I owned it would be...... wearing it out!!!!

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Standard stuff: Scott name, London address, & Premier.

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I would not change that gun if it were me, it is unique. It is an excellent surviving piece of history, IMHO to restock it would be a sin.

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And to restock it at 8000 bucks would be insanity...

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Originally Posted By: Timothy S
I would not change that gun if it were me, it is unique. It is an excellent surviving piece of history, IMHO to restock it would be a sin.

tim


Gimme a break. To restock it would do nothing to decrease the value of that gun....if you kept the original stock and forend. The restock would not mess with anything, it would just have new wood. Who is quoting 8k to restock a shotgun??? Now that is ridiculous, when you have ACGG members who charge around 2-3k for a sidelock restock...and you all have seen the work that ACGG guys do, they are fully capable, just as capable, if not more so than the old codger who built the orignal stock at Scotts. If it were mine, it "wood" be getting new "wood" and that abomination of trap stock would get wrapped in paper and twine, boxed up and put away for good (jOe should get the same treatment, wrapped up in paper and twine, boxed up and put away ).

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Originally Posted By: Timothy S
I would not change that gun if it were me, it is unique. It is an excellent surviving piece of history, IMHO to restock it would be a sin.

tim


Gimme a break. To restock it would do nothing to decrease the value of that gun....if you kept the original stock and forend. The restock would not mess with anything, it would just have new wood. Who is quoting 8k to restock a shotgun??? Now that is ridiculous, when you have ACGG members who charge around 2-3k for a sidelock restock...and you all have seen the work that ACGG guys do, they are fully capable, just as capable, if not more so than the old codger who built the orignal stock at Scotts. If it were mine, it "wood" be getting new "wood" and that abomination of trap stock would get wrapped in paper and twine, boxed up and put away for good (jOe should get the same treatment, wrapped up in paper and twine, boxed up and put away ).

Dustin


It is not about increasing or decreasing the value, it's the fact that the gun is an interesting gun. It is interesting, something Scott did off the beaten path, ya, you could re-stock it and make it look like every other stock you see, but to me that's a little boring.

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I said $5000+ to restock it (maybe a little more depending on the wood).

That's what it costs to have it done right.

That doesn't include the forend, either.

Converting it to a straight grip means building a new triggerguard (plus engraving & blacking).

That wouldn't be cheap, either.

And if I did it, I would keep the other stock and the metalwork. While the value of the gun wouldn't fall, I would probably have more into it that it would be worth.


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LeFusil-

I said $5000+ to restock it (maybe a little more depending on the wood).

That's what it costs to have it done right.

That doesn't include the forend, either.

Converting it to a straight grip means building a new triggerguard (plus engraving & blacking).

That wouldn't be cheap, either.

And if I did it, I would keep the other stock and the metalwork. While the value of the gun wouldn't fall, I would probably have more into it that it would be worth.


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I hear you loud and clear. I've had a few shotguns that have been restocked, all the jobs were done "right", I've never come close to paying 5k. The most I've ever paid was 2K and that was last years project gun. I use "established" stockers as well, guys who are known in the trade, not run of the mill wood jockeys. Doug Mann has quoted me prices for complete restocking jobs nowhere near 5k, I think he does it "right", as does Dennis Earl Smith, again, using talented guys like that, and still no where near 5k. I'm sure if a guy wanted to, and added complicated checkering patterns, extremely high grade wood (the $300 blanks I buy from Cecil would cost you around 1k if you bought it from Galazan, etc), complicated add ons like skeleton butt plates, grip caps, etc... I really dont see the point in making the gun a straight gripped gun either, I rather like the semi-pistol grip shape the older Scotts had, I find it to be very elegant and erognomic, pleasing to both the hand and eye.

I know some stock makers do charge a premium (aka overpriced), not saying any names, but they charge what they charge because they were articled at Holland and Holland, etc., and you're paying for the warm fuzzies and to say, "my gun was stocked by a english guy". Or, your using guys that cater to a certain clientel who can afford to pay whatever the stockmaker wants to charge.

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Originally Posted By: LeFusil

I hear you loud and clear. I've had a few shotguns that have been restocked, all the jobs were done "right", I've never come close to paying 5k. The most I've ever paid was 2K and that was last years project gun.


I agree....It would be kinda hard to dump that kind of money in a Darne.


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