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Can anyone help me find who and when the first micrometer scope mounts as Unertl, Fecker, Pope Etc. was made? And is the any patent on these types of mounts?

I have tried in the book "Old Gunsights & Rifle Scopes" and the earliest I could find was Pope Year 1900, in pope's 1899 catalog it seems like he uses similar mounts, Stevens had them in 1902.

Michael

Do you just want information on Unertl, Fecker and Pope or all mounts?
http://www.google.com/patents?id=shhtAAAAEBAJ&dq=telescop+mount+mann
http://www.google.com/patents?id=tDRCAAA...ges&cad=0_1

MP I was looking for who made the first of this type and when they first was patented, the F.L. Smith was a later one, Stevens made them in 1902 and Pope in 1900 but where do they original come from? and when.

The Mann type is different, I found that one too in my books.

Michael

Well now I am going to have to look it up. My impression was that the external adjustment click type mount as we now know it was patented by Fecker, but patents being what they are, there may have been something earlier.

The micrometer mount has been around for some time but I don't know who was the first.

The "Click" came along much later most likely Lyman, I think Fecker used Lyman mounts on his early scopes.

Pope's mounts were micrometer, but they weren't click! Pope's flyers for his mounts specifically said he intentionally did not use click adjustments, as he felt the need to stop between clicks for precision shooting. What Pope did use was a lockring, and his windage was a lefthand thread to allow the scope to be adjusted like a iron sight.
The first time I tried to adjust my Ballard's Pope mounts it gave me fits! I read a Pope brochure and duh! The light came on!
Malcolm used a micrometer type mount way before Fecker, Lyman, Stevens, or Unertl were even around. It didn't work off the same style as the others, but it is considered a micrometer style mount. Cataract Scopes were also micrometer mounts before Stevens, and Stevens bought Cataract to get into the scope business in 1900. Cataract and Malcolm were both in business from around 1880.

Gents, thanks for the inputs.

Michael